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He nows does his gripper work 4 days per week for 1 hour. He does the singles throughout the hour. He does the #3 to get the "clicks" out. He also bends nails 3 times per week also. He told me that he and his brothers found that the 4 days per week was much better for them than the daily route.

As for his barbell training Nathan told me he was still chasing some of his goals like a seated press of 200lbs. He does 6 sets of 2 on the bigger moves and 3x3 on other stuff like curls.

Simple. By the way he and I have discussed training several times over the past year. He seems more interested in learning about what I was doing for overall barbell training. Grip is not the only thing he has goals in. Also the choice of sets and reps can be testament to his lean wiry look. Very Pavelish. To me he just seems to have a great training environment working with his brothers and all of them pushing the heck out of each other.

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MIKE HALEY RILEY CLOE

Jeff, does he bend the nails on the same day as the grippers, or on the opposite days? I also would agree, his choice of reps (and genetics of course), probably contribute to his build. Mike

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He nows does his gripper work 4 days per week for 1 hour. He does the singles throughout the hour.

Well, this now conflicts with MILO. Because he said 4-6 singles working the grippers. Unless he takes 15 minutes rest in between each?

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It would be cool to know if he wants to aim for a even tougher gripper to close? And how far he thinks he can go with the grippers? If the WC or PRO is possible etc?

Also what he could do with the grippers when he first started, closed the #2 first time? Does he feel that being a carpenter helped him? Since his hands was used of daily work.

Another thing, if he feels that he has a really special gift with the grippers, how much is talent, how much is hard work and belief and really finding your own way to train?

Are any the other Holle brothers training for the #4? If so, are any of them near closing it? If not, howcome Nathan progressed so much faster?

Did he do negatives? Has he tried a RB 330 IP gripper?

Thats about all I can think of right now :online

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Certification,

When (Date and Time):

Where:

By Whom:

Has the gripper be sent to be 'authenticated'?

Does Nathan understand how big a deal this is in the grip community? I mean, a 200 lb military press is okay, but a #4 closure puts him at the top of the grip world!(okay there are other things in grip but nothing gets as much attention!)

oh, and what the heck does he do for grippers that is different? does he have a training philosophy? Ask him to write a 50 page manuscript detailing all of his grip knowledge... maybe if you say 'please'? :inno

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My (edited to save space) has not arrived yet, but I have twice appealed to those who have seen it for details about Nathan's close. No response containing details, so I must temporarily conclude that no details were presented?

If so, this is woeful coverage of an apparently amazing feat, that should have been documented thoroughly, written about well, and presented only after both those aspects had been completed.

When covering the closing of a 4 let's not be greeted with Trainer ability reporting.

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RJ Strossen, apparently decided that "grip nut" stuff wasnt that interesting for the average MILO reader. Why would he even mention if the gripper was sent in for authentification? How funny is that to read about for any reader.

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MIKE HALEY RILEY CLOE

Jeff, there is just one picture of "the close", various pictures of other grip feats, including what looks like a high pull with a 50 lbs. blob, and "repping" with a #3. There is also a series of pictures of Gavin bending a Red nail and Craig and Nathan lifting the Inch replica with the rod through the center hole (there was an article on this in the March issue.) There is also a couple pictures of Nathan on the front cover ( I wont ruin it all for you , unless you want to know)! Mike

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Dan Cenidoza

I'd like to know if he did/does any finger extention work. I believe my own imbalance has been causing me some problems lately.

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RJ Strossen, apparently decided that "grip nut" stuff wasnt that interesting for the average MILO reader. Why would he even mention if the gripper was sent in for authentification? How funny is that to read about for any reader.

I'd disagree. Randy took extra measures in the Certification process and dedicated a four page article to the Holles in this most recent MILO. Clearly, he sees the importance and relevance of this feat to both the grip world and the rest of the strength world.

It is true that your initial questions, Joe, are not answered in this issue of MILO. Unfortunately, if my above opinion is correct, that seems even more troubling than not including that information because it's thought to be 'uninteresting'.

Time will tell, but in the end, IronMind need only satisfy their own certification process.

BC.

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Brian,

I disagree that Randy need only satisfy his own certification process- if he expects

general approval, and or, accecptance of the announced result.

If the grip board decides to begin certifying, I cannot imagine Bill and the

other moderators taking a smilar stance. Dotted i's, crossed t's, details, details, details will be the plan, I hope.

In bodybuilding- this is similar to destroying the scoresheets from the judges, and

simply announcing the winner, with no back-tracing possible- which many may argue has in effect happened- and has that been a happy result?

Maybe all this is coming later? Hopefully our certification will be coming sooner.

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I completely agree with your sentiments, Joe. What I meant was that for someone to get on IronMind's list, IronMind only needs to satisfy their own criteria, just as the GripBoard, if it begins its own certification process, only needs to satisfy it's criteria, whatever it may be.

Your addition of "if he expects general approval, and or, accecptance of the announced result" is the crux of the matter. For something with the gravity of a #4 close I would definitely like to see as much potential for doubt eliminated as possible. Hopefully, more details will be forthcoming. I don't think that it's at all unfair for us to expect that.

BC.

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Ofc a #4 close is incredible and you want to eliminate all doubts possible. But I think that is just what RJ Strosssen did? It is unfair to demand of him that he writes about every single detail in MILO. I think what he wrote in MILO was the interesting stuff, I dont neccesarly want to know how the #4 gripper was confiscated etc etc, that was my point.

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I see more clearly what you're saying now Patrik. I just wonder what more appropriate medium these details would be released if not in MILO and not on the IronMind website. I agree that not everyone will care that a gripper was confiscated, hermetically sealed, and transferred to IronMind under a Secret Service escort, but what about "on this day, at this time, at this location, appointed judge X witnessed this feat"? How is doubt being eliminated if the very few people directly involved are the only ones who know the details?

BC.

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Its not like this was time magazine or something. Milo and the ironmind website are the only places where us grip nerds can find the detail that we want. If you can't post the most specific detail in the most niche magazine where can you post it?

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mobsterone

I have the four - I zapped it with my ray gun and am analysing it with my spectrometer right now - I have also frozen Nathan in statis and will be disecting him after a mind probe - quick last questions.

BTW: I have already asked a la marathon man 'is it safe'?

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I see more clearly what you're saying now Patrik. I just wonder what more appropriate medium these details would be released if not in MILO and not on the IronMind website. I agree that not everyone will care that a gripper was confiscated, hermetically sealed, and transferred to IronMind under a Secret Service escort, but what about "on this day, at this time, at this location, appointed judge X witnessed this feat"? How is doubt being eliminated if the very few people directly involved are the only ones who know the details?

BC.

Yeah, that is true. Information such as date, location and name of the special judge that RJ Strossen had selected probably should have been in MILO.

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Rick Walker

Got my MILO today finally.

I have one thing to say-how many have watched the show "Who's Line Is It Anyway"?

No disrespect-but DAMN!

Rick Walker :rock

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Guest Jeff Roark

In a personal e-mail from Nathan there was no mention of closing a #3 after his 4-6 squeezes on the #4, but what was said that he WOULD follow up with a couple squeezes on a Super Elite if it was available. Maybe Randy didn't want to advertise someones elses grippers...who knows.

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In a personal e-mail from Nathan there was no mention of closing a #3 after his 4-6 squeezes on the #4, but what was said that he WOULD follow up with a couple squeezes on a Super Elite if it was available. Maybe Randy didn't want to advertise someones elses grippers...who knows.

Now THIS is funny.

Check back on my previous post about feeling it would be almost "worthless" for him to do ONE single with a 3 at the end of his workout and thought it didn't make sense given he has HIGHER grippers than a 3 but not as hard as the 4. ;)

By the way, Randy asked me why I had Heath closing a Silver Elite on the KTA program page rather than a 3. I told him because it was much harder than a normal 3. :)

Did I say I feel vindicated?

:mosher

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Guest Jeff Roark

Bill,

Does this make more sense to you now? When he told me he closed the #3 for a single or two was to get the "clicks" out of his hand. I assuming achy knuckles a poppin. Other than that he said he does some pinch, wrist and thickbar stuff along with his barbell workouts. Also he said the strapholds, negatives and anything else was found to be nearly worthless for he and his brothers and that just plain old squeezing hard on the grippers works best.

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Jeff,

Sounds like your emails have the info that (edited to save space) should have had?

If you savd the emails and if Nathan does not object, they would make good reading here.

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