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Joe, you’ve convinced me! You seem to know all the answers. You should spend some time and effort to work yourself into the nearest university and start doing serious research. It’s not that difficult. I went from being a high school drop out to having a double bachelor and a masters within just a few years. I got employed at the university and started teaching and working on research while I was still a student myself. You’ve clearly demonstrated that I’m wrong about so many things so you must be much smarter than me. You should be able to do what I’ve done with ease. I mean, I’ve met and even interviewed a few nobel prize winners, I’ve bumped shoulders with some pretty smart people. But none of them seem as confident and certain of their own work as much as you. Imagine what wonders you could achieve if you were actually doing research (instead of just regurgitating uneducated arguments from evangelic websites). I recon you could revolutionize the entire world! I mean, just look at all the technological achievements we’ve made based on our incorrect science! Imagine what we could do if we were actually right about this stuff! We’d be riding flying cars and time traveling in no time!

Joe. Take an honest look of yourself. Consider the demographic you belong to. What type of work you do. What interests you have. Your academic achievements. Take it all into account. Could it just be that you are simply clueless? I mean, do an honest assessment of yourself and try to think objectively. Would it make sense that someone like you actually have all the answers? What’s more likely?

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That palm handle position looks like Ronnie's.  [goes and hides]  

I believe so. The 3 was a toy for me at my peak. I’m rehabbing right now but I’ll try once I’m fully back. I remember showing guys grippers at the gym and picking up a 3 with no warm up and closing it

My #4 close didn’t have any holes on the bottom of the handles. That’s how you know it is legit!

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16 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

Joe, you’ve convinced me! You seem to know all the answers. You should spend some time and effort to work yourself into the nearest university and start doing serious research. It’s not that difficult. I went from being a high school drop out to having a double bachelor and a masters within just a few years. I got employed at the university and started teaching and working on research while I was still a student myself. You’ve clearly demonstrated that I’m wrong about so many things so you must be much smarter than me. You should be able to do what I’ve done with ease. I mean, I’ve met and even interviewed a few nobel prize winners, I’ve bumped shoulders with some pretty smart people. But none of them seem as confident and certain of their own work as much as you. Imagine what wonders you could achieve if you were actually doing research (instead of just regurgitating uneducated arguments from evangelic websites). I recon you could revolutionize the entire world! I mean, just look at all the technological achievements we’ve made based on our incorrect science! Imagine what we could do if we were actually right about this stuff! We’d be riding flying cars and time traveling in no time!

Joe. Take an honest look of yourself. Consider the demographic you belong to. What type of work you do. What interests you have. Your academic achievements. Take it all into account. Could it just be that you are simply clueless? I mean, do an honest assessment of yourself and try to think objectively. Would it make sense that someone like you actually have all the answers? What’s more likely?

Ok, first off, you know nothing about me David, other than my strength videos I post. I am a physical therapist. My demographic? You see, this is what one resorts to when they think they know everything. I have never said I know everything. Can you please point out where I did? Sounds like you have a superiority complex and can’t stand when your world view of theory is challenged and you can’t admit you have faith in the theory you believe in. You just can’t do it. Sounds like a God complex. Never once did I say I knew everything. That’s an awfully narcissistic post you  just made. And not for nothing, if you think people can’t critically think and see the holes in some of the BS you just threw down, then you seriously underestimate people and overestimate your own intelligence. Am I insulted? Do I feel bad? Not in the least! This is what one does when backed into the corner and has no definitive answers to what they believe to be true! Good luck with that, David! Your faith is strong! Faith in theory! NOT FACT. And you will never admit it. Sad!  Also, can you point out where I said you were actually “wrong”??? I believe I CHALLENGED some things being taught as fact as not being fact but a theory and actually unproven!! But you take it as what you like. You have shown your true colors by attacking things you know nothing about with my background. Should I be a snow flake and cry “hate speech”? Nope! Just shows that you can’t admit that it takes faith to believe what you believe! Oh yea, by the way!!! I was once like you as well! Good day, Mr Wigren!  And one more thing, at the end of the day, no matter what title you hold at the end of your name, still DOES NOT make you right and it DOES NOT prove theory as fact! Carry on! 😉.. oh and by the way... not once did I attack your character in anyway or what I perceived about you, that’s all you. For what you said about me, you are also a member of the grip board and do a lot of the same things I do!!!  So what does that say about you and your “demographic”?? Sounds pretty insulting to the bulk of the people involved in strength sports, no?  Massive narcissistic superiority complex at its finest! “ He doesn’t agree with me and my unproven theory  so me attack”!! 🤣🤣🤣

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TLDR version; science isn’t faith based as its subject to change as new evidence is brought forth. Religious faith does not. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/03/08/science-is-not-faith-based-no-matter-what-the-wall-street-journal-says/

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I don’t believe in anything. I’m completely agnostic. If God shows up at my house tomorrow I’d cook him breakfast and probably challenge him at an armwrestling match.

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29 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

Joe, you’ve convinced me! You seem to know all the answers. You should spend some time and effort to work yourself into the nearest university and start doing serious research. It’s not that difficult. I went from being a high school drop out to having a double bachelor and a masters within just a few years. I got employed at the university and started teaching and working on research while I was still a student myself. You’ve clearly demonstrated that I’m wrong about so many things so you must be much smarter than me. You should be able to do what I’ve done with ease. I mean, I’ve met and even interviewed a few nobel prize winners, I’ve bumped shoulders with some pretty smart people. But none of them seem as confident and certain of their own work as much as you. Imagine what wonders you could achieve if you were actually doing research (instead of just regurgitating uneducated arguments from evangelic websites). I recon you could revolutionize the entire world! I mean, just look at all the technological achievements we’ve made based on our incorrect science! Imagine what we could do if we were actually right about this stuff! We’d be riding flying cars and time traveling in no time!

Joe. Take an honest look of yourself. Consider the demographic you belong to. What type of work you do. What interests you have. Your academic achievements. Take it all into account. Could it just be that you are simply clueless? I mean, do an honest assessment of yourself and try to think objectively. Would it make sense that someone like you actually have all the answers? What’s more likely?

So you equate technology advancements with them being able to tell you that the world came  about by an explosion of NOTHING 5 billion years ago and that your grand dad was an ape?  So you truly are saying they/you know everything and they are never wrong?  🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s why the science books are being revised CONSTANTLY?? Because they thought they knew something, but really didn’t? Oh man this is hilarious!  Sorry man, this is too funny. You just can’t admit that it’s faith in what you believe. But that’s ok. I won’t lose sleep over it . 😴 

I believe in science FACT... not THEORY.  

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12 minutes ago, Shoggoth said:

TLDR version; science isn’t faith based as its subject to change as new evidence is brought forth. Religious faith does not. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/03/08/science-is-not-faith-based-no-matter-what-the-wall-street-journal-says/

Science fact is not faith based, science theory absolutely is!! They have FAITH in the Big Bang, FAITH in the belief you came from a monkey, but no proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. That’s faith. But science fact needs no faith, it’s proven by beings observable, testable and measurable. 

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4 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

So you equate technology advancements with them being able to tell you that the world came  about by an explosion of NOTHING 5 billion years ago and that your grand dad was an ape?  So you truly are saying they/you know everything and they are never wrong?  🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s why the science books are being revised CONSTANTLY?? Because they thought they knew something, but really didn’t? Oh man this is hilarious!  Sorry man, this is too funny. You just can’t admit that it’s faith in what you believe. But that’s ok. I won’t lose sleep over it . 😴 

I believe in science FACT... not THEORY.  

In science there is no indisputable fact. That’s what makes science good and fanaticism so dangerous. 

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Joe, could you please define what a scientific theory is. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t mean what you think it does.

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1 minute ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

Science fact is not faith based, science theory absolutely is!! They have FAITH in the Big Bang, FAITH in the belief you came from a monkey, but no proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. That’s faith. But science fact needs no faith, it’s proven by beings observable, testable and measurable. 

Nowhere does evolution say we came from monkeys. That’s religious bibble-babble intended to rouse folks and make them hold signs rather than to understand what’s intended. 

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Joe, were you raised religious or did you become religious as an adult? Were your parents religious?

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Just now, Shoggoth said:

Nowhere does evolution say we came from monkeys. That’s religious bibble-babble intended to rouse folks and make them hold signs rather than to understand what’s intended. 

Joe said he doesn’t believe in a common ancestor. He wants to see a video of a dog becoming a cat before he’ll believe in evolution.

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Just now, David_wigren said:

Joe said he doesn’t believe in a common ancestor. He wants to see a video of a dog becoming a cat before he’ll believe in evolution.

I think the platypus forgot to charge the camera. 

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Just now, Shoggoth said:

I think the platypus forgot to charge the camera. 

Jason. If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys!? Big bang can’t explain that!

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2 minutes ago, Shoggoth said:

In science there is no indisputable fact. That’s what makes science good and fanaticism so dangerous. 

No? Are you sure about that? Or are you part of the clueless demographic that @David_wigren has classified? Absolutely there is science fact!! If it’s testable, measurable and observable!! Water boils at 212 degrees. Does that ever change? No!  That’s a fact.

 

5 minutes ago, Shoggoth said:

Nowhere does evolution say we came from monkeys. That’s religious bibble-babble intended to rouse folks and make them hold signs rather than to understand what’s intended. 

Monkeys is a loose term, Steven. They say we evolved from primitive ape like creatures. Sorry pal, don’t believe that for a second. There is also no missing link ever found. So that’s faith!

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5 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

Joe, were you raised religious or did you become religious as an adult? Were your parents religious?

I got saved by the blood of Jesus at 31 after reading the Bible from coverto cover . I was an atheist/agnostic like you. Until I actually looked into all that was being told that did not add up. So, no, I was not raised religious. I am not religious. I believe in God as the creator. Nothing religious about it. Religious is a loose term used for those that follow rituals of man. I am far from religious. I am saved by my faith in Jesus alone. Nothing else.

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Air pressure changes it. Specific weight of that water. Also, someday, it may change with some unknown (as of yet) variable and it will be modified. The boiling point is not a hard fact. It’s a theory. And now you should understand the power of scientific theory to create replicatable results. Neat eh!

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One thing is bothering me.  Nobody said the universe is 5 billion years old.

Best estimate at this time (based on speed of light and how far the most powerful telescopes can "see") is 13.8 billion years, give or take 20 million or so.  

The age of our solar system is roughly 4.6 billion years, which is an estimate based on isotope decay in meteorites and rocks.

I think somewhere in all this awesomeness, those two got confused.

Carry on.

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1 minute ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

No? Are you sure about that? Or are you part of the clueless demographic that @David_wigren has classified? Absolutely there is science fact!! If it’s testable, measurable and observable!! Water boils at 212 degrees. Does that ever change? No!  That’s a fact.

 

Monkeys is a loose term, Steven. They say we evolved from primitive ape like creatures. Sorry pal, don’t believe that for a second. There is also no missing link ever found. So that’s faith!

Um... yeah it does 😂. The tempature at which water boils is largely dependent on the pressure. Water can boil at a large variety of temperatures. 

 

Also, humans are still classified as apes. We didn’t evolve from apes. We are apes.

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8 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

Joe said he doesn’t believe in a common ancestor. He wants to see a video of a dog becoming a cat before he’ll believe in evolution.

Your DNA also shows you share a lot in common with mold and a sunflower! Are those also your common ancestor? I’m going with common designer.

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Just now, Mike Rinderle said:

One thing is bothering me.  Nobody said the universe is 5 billion years old.

Best estimate at this time (based on speed of light and how far the most powerful telescopes can "see") is 13.8 billion years, give or take 20 million or so.  

The age of our solar system is roughly 4.6 billion years, which is an estimate based on isotope decay in meteorites and rocks.

I think somewhere in all this awesomeness, those two got confused.

Carry on.

I noticed that too. But there are so many crazy statements being thrown around I didn’t bother to say anything.

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2 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

There is also no missing link ever found. So that’s faith!

Are you positive?

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1 minute ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

Your DNA also shows you share a lot in common with mold and a sunflower! Are those also your common ancestor? I’m going with common designer.

Correct. By measuring the random change in DNA over time, you can even track at roughly which time we diverted from our common ancestor.

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2 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

I noticed that too. But there are so many crazy statements being thrown around I didn’t bother to say anything.

Not the universe, but the earth itself is said to be 5 billion years old. 

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