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Mike Rinderle
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7 hours ago, AdamTGlass said:

Its the classic exciting battle of reality vs fantasy.

In boring old reality we have to contend with pesky facts, relative comparison, and numbers. It’s so dull compared to the colorful myth and lore of hand training. 

Whatever the reqlity it’s still the best fishing story I’ve ever been told 🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟

Your EQ is low.  I recommend more squats to boost that.

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I put you're instead of your because I skipped that chapter in the Kinney self-help book.
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1 hour ago, Alawadhi said:

More like 15 reps at least!

Heath why are you lying to us? Lol JK. Heath is one of the best gripsters out there with integrity! He will never lie especially to these childish things. Some people who try to make Heath look like a liar are just embarrassing themselves.

Kinney can you help with the tax thing too if you need a help. Leaving jokes aside, I wish you the best!

Paul compares himself not only because he can close stronger grippers than Joe Kinney, but because even his girlfriend has a better grip than Joe Kinney (seriously). I'll bet on Paul in ANYTHING grip over Joe Kinney any day. Paul reached very strong levels because he is training right and know how to close grippers. The people who are telling Paul otherwise can't close grippers as hard as what Paul can do. But hey, @Paul Savage aren't you Joe Kinney with a mask? :D

As for Juha, no Juha did his ways later on. He learned from Paul Knight way more than Kinney. And his secret to close the #4 was from Mr. Knight. Let's not forget guys, Juha had one of the strongest crush ever. He close his 212 rated #4 here. It was such an intensity. He even broke a tooth once closing a #4. Yes that's how serious closing a #4 is. Not holding it wrongly, going slow, grinding it, talking calmly, gripper move in a weird way, not showing the close, et cetera.

Edit: Not showing the open (not close)

Pretty sure Juha has a road to the no.4 YouTube videos doing negatives in the power rack. ✌Scouts honor 

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2 hours ago, jchapman said:

The reason people certified on the #3 when KTA was hot was because you could deep set the gripper.

Yes, but volume and negatives were pretty standard after Joe

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bencrush
On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 3:38 PM, slazbob said:

i believe the guy- nobody does here...and that’s fine. It’s an old story.

 

@slazbobYou are not alone, my friend. 

As you no doubt remember from the IronMind forum, I was not a believer for quite a while.  Then after talking to you, JK himself, and some other guys I trust - I became a believer.  It sounds weird to write it like that.  But he (and your input) convinced me in the long run.  And the thing is there was no gain from either of you trying to convince me.  I'm nobody in the grand scheme of things.  And Joe was extremely kind to me, even after reading some of the not super friendly things I wrote about him.  He and I have corresponded a few times privately and the topic of #4 closes is hardly ever even touched on in our chats.  That's not what made me a believer, of course.  There isn't ONE thing that made me change my mind.  More like 100 little things that when put together gave me the impression that it was very likely he did what he said he did.  I don't argue it with guys because there is no incentive to change their mind.  I believe there are things he mentions or details in his private talks with people that would very likely sway some hardcore skeptics.  He doesn't even badmouth skeptics.  I believe he is a skeptic himself, and is an incredibly bright (intelligence) guy.  Not a guy who comes off like the clichéd hillbilly that some have referenced.  Not that I have anything against hillbillys either, lol. 

Threads about JK have the "feel" of political talks with family and friends.  I rarely talk to my family about politics.  I never talk to acquaintances about politics.  Wonder why?  Many reasons, but there are religious (or lack of) reasons - I am an atheist.  Only one member of my family is not what I would consider "religious."  That member of my family, my brother Michael, is also gay.  And I think he would consider himself an atheist, also.  I guess he would be labeled a "gaytheist.":D  So I have never felt that he was eye to eye with most of our family.  I have been very gay friendly since I was a child.  This isn't saying that the family was ever "mean" to him.  But it has been "trying" for him his whole life.  One brother is a Trump supporter.  I am not.  Neither is Michael.  So, I for the most part avoid posting political Facebook "vote for Trump/against Trump"-style rants on Facebook.  This part of my post probably seems way out of place.  But I share it in good faith because I believe Joe Kinney threads could bring us all closer to that wonderful feeling when grip training was new.  When every gripper you saw - you wanted to smash it right away!  Or at least give it a shot.  And you wanted to share your knowledge of all things grip vs. arguing about who is a cheater or a faker or whatever it might be. 

A lot of guys (and some gals!) on the Gripboard are friends and some of you are family to me.  Not blood.  But still family.  And I avoid topics like this usually because I don't want to create hurt feelings or a divide that tarnishes an otherwise smooth relationship.  I added my thoughts because it felt to me like @slazbob felt a bit alone.  And maybe "ganged up" on, although I don't think he has thin skin about any of this. 

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Mike Rinderle
9 minutes ago, bencrush said:

@slazbobYou are not alone, my friend. 

As you no doubt remember from the IronMind forum, I was not a believer for quite a while.  Then after talking to you, JK himself, and some other guys I trust - I became a believer.  It sounds weird to write it like that.  But he (and your input) convinced me in the long run.  And the thing is there was no gain from either of you trying to convince me.  I'm nobody in the grand scheme of things.  And Joe was extremely kind to me, even after reading some of the not super friendly things I wrote about him.  He and I have corresponded a few times privately and the topic of #4 closes is hardly ever even touched on in our chats.  That's not what made me a believer, of course.  There isn't ONE thing that made me change my mind.  More like 100 little things that when put together gave me the impression that it was very likely he did what he said he did.  I don't argue it with guys because there is no incentive to change their mind.  I believe there are things he mentions or details in his private talks with people that would very likely sway some hardcore skeptics.  He doesn't even badmouth skeptics.  I believe he is a skeptic himself, and is an incredibly bright (intelligence) guy.  Not a guy who comes off like the clichéd hillbilly that some have referenced.  Not that I have anything against hillbillys either, lol. 

Threads about JK have the "feel" of political talks with family and friends.  I rarely talk to my family about politics.  I never talk to acquaintances about politics.  Wonder why?  Many reasons, but there are religious (or lack of) reasons - I am an atheist.  Only one member of my family is not what I would consider "religious."  That member of my family, my brother Michael, is also gay.  And I think he would consider himself an atheist, also.  I guess he would be labeled a "gaytheist.":D  So I have never felt that he was eye to eye with most of our family.  I have been very gay friendly since I was a child.  This isn't saying that the family was ever "mean" to him.  But it has been "trying" for him his whole life.  One brother is a Trump supporter.  I am not.  Neither is Michael.  So, I for the most part avoid posting political Facebook "vote for Trump/against Trump"-style rants on Facebook.  This part of my post probably seems way out of place.  But I share it in good faith because I believe Joe Kinney threads could bring us all closer to that wonderful feeling when grip training was new.  When every gripper you saw - you wanted to smash it right away!  Or at least give it a shot.  And you wanted to share your knowledge of all things grip vs. arguing about who is a cheater or a faker or whatever it might be. 

A lot of guys (and some gals!) on the Gripboard are friends and some of you are family to me.  Not blood.  But still family.  And I avoid topics like this usually because I don't want to create hurt feelings or a divide that tarnishes an otherwise smooth relationship.  I added my thoughts because it felt to me like @slazbob felt a bit alone.  And maybe "ganged up" on, although I don't think he has thin skin about any of this. 

You heathen!  🤣 

Great getting your view Ben.  At some point we passed in the night going opposite directions on this topic.  But I imagine we agree on most stuff.  Even if we didn't, I guarantee I'd still call you a friend.  

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Cheers Ben

i doubt any of the grown folk get their undies too tight over any of this

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25 minutes ago, bencrush said:

@slazbobYou are not alone, my friend. 

As you no doubt remember from the IronMind forum, I was not a believer for quite a while.  Then after talking to you, JK himself, and some other guys I trust - I became a believer.  It sounds weird to write it like that.  But he (and your input) convinced me in the long run.  And the thing is there was no gain from either of you trying to convince me.  I'm nobody in the grand scheme of things.  And Joe was extremely kind to me, even after reading some of the not super friendly things I wrote about him.  He and I have corresponded a few times privately and the topic of #4 closes is hardly ever even touched on in our chats.  That's not what made me a believer, of course.  There isn't ONE thing that made me change my mind.  More like 100 little things that when put together gave me the impression that it was very likely he did what he said he did.  I don't argue it with guys because there is no incentive to change their mind.  I believe there are things he mentions or details in his private talks with people that would very likely sway some hardcore skeptics.  He doesn't even badmouth skeptics.  I believe he is a skeptic himself, and is an incredibly bright (intelligence) guy.  Not a guy who comes off like the clichéd hillbilly that some have referenced.  Not that I have anything against hillbillys either, lol. 

Threads about JK have the "feel" of political talks with family and friends.  I rarely talk to my family about politics.  I never talk to acquaintances about politics.  Wonder why?  Many reasons, but there are religious (or lack of) reasons - I am an atheist.  Only one member of my family is not what I would consider "religious."  That member of my family, my brother Michael, is also gay.  And I think he would consider himself an atheist, also.  I guess he would be labeled a "gaytheist.":D  So I have never felt that he was eye to eye with most of our family.  I have been very gay friendly since I was a child.  This isn't saying that the family was ever "mean" to him.  But it has been "trying" for him his whole life.  One brother is a Trump supporter.  I am not.  Neither is Michael.  So, I for the most part avoid posting political Facebook "vote for Trump/against Trump"-style rants on Facebook.  This part of my post probably seems way out of place.  But I share it in good faith because I believe Joe Kinney threads could bring us all closer to that wonderful feeling when grip training was new.  When every gripper you saw - you wanted to smash it right away!  Or at least give it a shot.  And you wanted to share your knowledge of all things grip vs. arguing about who is a cheater or a faker or whatever it might be. 

A lot of guys (and some gals!) on the Gripboard are friends and some of you are family to me.  Not blood.  But still family.  And I avoid topics like this usually because I don't want to create hurt feelings or a divide that tarnishes an otherwise smooth relationship.  I added my thoughts because it felt to me like @slazbob felt a bit alone.  And maybe "ganged up" on, although I don't think he has thin skin about any of this. 

Thank you, Ben! I appreciate your kind words, brother. 

Nothing would change for me if most on here came to the dark side and believed Joe’s story...I certainly would want them to have that hope that you can achieve that type of crush. It’s all been civil and I certainly respect their feelings. 

Bader saying Joe was weaker than Paul’s gal was a little silly, but all and all...this has been a decent Kinney thread. Ahem—Coleman thread.

a guy that plans a hoax isn’t going to build all that equipment, send progress reports/pictures- that, even tho in the newer video he said he didn’t use it, his pictures of his no.4 closes had chalked hands. for months...go through the trouble of building a squat bar...and a concrete platform...make concrete weights

There is pictures of him closing the no.3 with two fingers with no strain on his face...guess he had a fake no.3 as well? 😄 also busting cans with his hands- Magnus used his chest! I personally haven’t seen anyone do it Joe’s way ...someone show me please!

they’ll say it was all planned to fake it and sell videos ...if that’s the case he’s nuts and a genius.

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1 hour ago, bencrush said:

@slazbobYou are not alone, my friend. 

As you no doubt remember from the IronMind forum, I was not a believer for quite a while.  Then after talking to you, JK himself, and some other guys I trust - I became a believer.  It sounds weird to write it like that.  But he (and your input) convinced me in the long run.  And the thing is there was no gain from either of you trying to convince me.  I'm nobody in the grand scheme of things.  And Joe was extremely kind to me, even after reading some of the not super friendly things I wrote about him.  He and I have corresponded a few times privately and the topic of #4 closes is hardly ever even touched on in our chats.  That's not what made me a believer, of course.  There isn't ONE thing that made me change my mind.  More like 100 little things that when put together gave me the impression that it was very likely he did what he said he did.  I don't argue it with guys because there is no incentive to change their mind.  I believe there are things he mentions or details in his private talks with people that would very likely sway some hardcore skeptics.  He doesn't even badmouth skeptics.  I believe he is a skeptic himself, and is an incredibly bright (intelligence) guy.  Not a guy who comes off like the clichéd hillbilly that some have referenced.  Not that I have anything against hillbillys either, lol. 

Threads about JK have the "feel" of political talks with family and friends.  I rarely talk to my family about politics.  I never talk to acquaintances about politics.  Wonder why?  Many reasons, but there are religious (or lack of) reasons - I am an atheist.  Only one member of my family is not what I would consider "religious."  That member of my family, my brother Michael, is also gay.  And I think he would consider himself an atheist, also.  I guess he would be labeled a "gaytheist.":D  So I have never felt that he was eye to eye with most of our family.  I have been very gay friendly since I was a child.  This isn't saying that the family was ever "mean" to him.  But it has been "trying" for him his whole life.  One brother is a Trump supporter.  I am not.  Neither is Michael.  So, I for the most part avoid posting political Facebook "vote for Trump/against Trump"-style rants on Facebook.  This part of my post probably seems way out of place.  But I share it in good faith because I believe Joe Kinney threads could bring us all closer to that wonderful feeling when grip training was new.  When every gripper you saw - you wanted to smash it right away!  Or at least give it a shot.  And you wanted to share your knowledge of all things grip vs. arguing about who is a cheater or a faker or whatever it might be. 

A lot of guys (and some gals!) on the Gripboard are friends and some of you are family to me.  Not blood.  But still family.  And I avoid topics like this usually because I don't want to create hurt feelings or a divide that tarnishes an otherwise smooth relationship.  I added my thoughts because it felt to me like @slazbob felt a bit alone.  And maybe "ganged up" on, although I don't think he has thin skin about any of this. 

Ben, that is very nice that you are able to put your opinion 100% our there, and then some. Thank you for the post. 

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Hubgeezer
6 hours ago, Mike Rinderle said:

You're EQ is low.  I recommend more squats to boost that.

Your grammar is not correct. I recommend English tutoring from Joe Kinney. 

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Mike Rinderle
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You're correct sir.  Your point is well taken.  In days of yore, people might have overlooked the one typo out of the thousands of words in this thread.  But your world and mine is now filled with grammar Nazis who, when they can't win an argument, point out flaws in grammar.  Not that you're one of them, but you did ignore the response that Heath was the one who said Joe told him on multiple occasions about the back and forth Inch. I'll go back and correct it for you since you're bothered by it. 

Your Namesake, Mikey

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12 minutes ago, Mike Rinderle said:

You're correct sir.  Your point is well taken.  In days of yore, people might have overlooked the one typo out of the thousands of words in this thread.  But your world and mine is now filled with grammar Nazis who, when they can't win an argument, point out flaws in grammar.  Not that you're one of them, but you did ignore the response that Heath was the one who said Joe told him on multiple occasions about the back and forth Inch. I'll go back and correct it for you since you're bothered by it. 

Your Namesake, Mikey

Thanks fer yer comments.

Heath and the back and forth. Yes, I know exactly what he said. My problem was not at all with what Heath said, as he was very clear.  It was others (including you) taking what he said, and changing the word "pass"  to the word "toss", which is a huge difference for a feat involving the Inch.  I was very clear on what I was asking. But, more than once, there was a very strange attempt to make it appear that I was calling Heath a liar. Absolutely not. I would have let it go if you hadn't dug in yet again and repeated my alleged insult above. 

But I do thank you fer yer comments. 

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Mike Rinderle
13 minutes ago, Hubgeezer said:

Thanks fer yer comments.

Heath and the back and forth. Yes, I know exactly what he said. My problem was not at all with what Heath said, as he was very clear.  It was others (including you) taking what he said, and changing the word "pass"  to the word "toss", which is a huge difference for a feat involving the Inch.  I was very clear on what I was asking. But, more than once, there was a very strange attempt to make it appear that I was calling Heath a liar. Absolutely not. I would have let it go if you hadn't dug in yet again and repeated my alleged insult above. 

But I do thank you fer yer comments. 

Lol.  OK Mike.  He didn't toss it or pass it back and forth.  Forget the semantics.  Why did he tell two CoCs that he did and later deny it?

Never mind.  Doesn't matter.  Yooooor not going to change yooooor mind, nor will eye.

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Hubgeezer
16 minutes ago, Mike Rinderle said:

  Why did he tell two CoCs that he did and later deny it?

 

He denied it? Where  did he deny it? I don't think he did, but I have been wrong on this thread more than once. 

To me, the difference between a pass and a toss (in Gripworld, not Football) is at least the difference between a 5 mm choked gripper close and a no set close.

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Mike Rinderle
1 hour ago, Hubgeezer said:

He denied it? Where  did he deny it? I don't think he did, but I have been wrong on this thread more than once. 

To me, the difference between a pass and a toss (in Gripworld, not Football) is at least the difference between a 5 mm choked gripper close and a no set close.

 

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Joseph Sullivan

My inbox is GETTING KILLED with this Joe Kinney madness......come on fellas! Have some mercy ...🤣🤣🤣

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Mike Rinderle
4 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

My inbox is GETTING KILLED with this Joe Kinney madness......come on fellas! Have some mercy ...🤣🤣🤣

Stop following the thread and the notifications will stop.  

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1 minute ago, Mike Rinderle said:

Stop following the thread and the notifications will stop.  

How? You can do that? I thought once you were in, it was a lock... please advise. It’s no “blood in, blood out”?

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I wonder who would win in a grip competition. Joe Kinney from 1998-1999 vs Silverback grip guy (what was his real name, Eucledies? Something like that?) from 2011-2012? 

 

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14 minutes ago, David_wigren said:

I wonder who would win in a grip competition. Joe Kinney from 1998-1999 vs Silverback grip guy (what was his real name, Eucledies? Something like that?) from 2011-2012? 

 

With Timmy as the referee...

Eucledies had the most entertaining grip videos ever made.  The ez curl bar in a towel and the towel crucifix were cinematic gold!

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25 minutes ago, Joseph Sullivan said:

How? You can do that? I thought once you were in, it was a lock... please advise. It’s no “blood in, blood out”?

Click on the following button and change your preferences. 

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Mike Rinderle
16 hours ago, slazbob said:

Yes, but volume and negatives were pretty standard after Joe

So was tendonitis.  😂🤣😂🤣 

 

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36 minutes ago, Mike Rinderle said:

With Timmy as the referee...

Eucledies had the most entertaining grip videos ever made.  The ez curl bar in a towel and the towel crucifix were cinematic gold!

His videos were very entertaining but I was particularly impressed with his training vlogs. He went through his training and shared many training ideas with surprising detail! He seemed to be a very intelligent, intense, observant and pragmatic person! Shame he never got to close the #4 under official settings. I still regard him as one of the greats, along with Kinney and the incredible boob-lady.

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I've seen some posts by this Euclides guy over at the IM forum, what's the deal with him? Fraud similar to Gazza? Doesn't seem to exist any videos anymore. 

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4 hours ago, David_wigren said:

 He seemed to be a very intelligent, intense, observant and pragmatic person! 

David, if you are going to quote me, please give me some credit, and I will always give you credit for “the incredible boob-lady”. 

Silverback? Not the words I would choose to describe him.

Mike R, thanks for the IronMind Forum JK thread quote.

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Alawadhi
14 hours ago, bencrush said:

@slazbobYou are not alone, my friend. 

As you no doubt remember from the IronMind forum, I was not a believer for quite a while.  Then after talking to you, JK himself, and some other guys I trust - I became a believer.  It sounds weird to write it like that.  But he (and your input) convinced me in the long run.  And the thing is there was no gain from either of you trying to convince me.  I'm nobody in the grand scheme of things.  And Joe was extremely kind to me, even after reading some of the not super friendly things I wrote about him.  He and I have corresponded a few times privately and the topic of #4 closes is hardly ever even touched on in our chats.  That's not what made me a believer, of course.  There isn't ONE thing that made me change my mind.  More like 100 little things that when put together gave me the impression that it was very likely he did what he said he did.  I don't argue it with guys because there is no incentive to change their mind.  I believe there are things he mentions or details in his private talks with people that would very likely sway some hardcore skeptics.  He doesn't even badmouth skeptics.  I believe he is a skeptic himself, and is an incredibly bright (intelligence) guy.  Not a guy who comes off like the clichéd hillbilly that some have referenced.  Not that I have anything against hillbillys either, lol. 

Threads about JK have the "feel" of political talks with family and friends.  I rarely talk to my family about politics.  I never talk to acquaintances about politics.  Wonder why?  Many reasons, but there are religious (or lack of) reasons - I am an atheist.  Only one member of my family is not what I would consider "religious."  That member of my family, my brother Michael, is also gay.  And I think he would consider himself an atheist, also.  I guess he would be labeled a "gaytheist.":D  So I have never felt that he was eye to eye with most of our family.  I have been very gay friendly since I was a child.  This isn't saying that the family was ever "mean" to him.  But it has been "trying" for him his whole life.  One brother is a Trump supporter.  I am not.  Neither is Michael.  So, I for the most part avoid posting political Facebook "vote for Trump/against Trump"-style rants on Facebook.  This part of my post probably seems way out of place.  But I share it in good faith because I believe Joe Kinney threads could bring us all closer to that wonderful feeling when grip training was new.  When every gripper you saw - you wanted to smash it right away!  Or at least give it a shot.  And you wanted to share your knowledge of all things grip vs. arguing about who is a cheater or a faker or whatever it might be. 

A lot of guys (and some gals!) on the Gripboard are friends and some of you are family to me.  Not blood.  But still family.  And I avoid topics like this usually because I don't want to create hurt feelings or a divide that tarnishes an otherwise smooth relationship.  I added my thoughts because it felt to me like @slazbob felt a bit alone.  And maybe "ganged up" on, although I don't think he has thin skin about any of this. 

Ben, we agree to disagree. But you are always a friend and a family!!! I still remember the awesome bending days we had.

13 hours ago, slazbob said:

Bader saying Joe was weaker than Paul’s gal was a little silly, but all and all...this has been a decent Kinney thread. Ahem—Coleman thread.

Yeah? Wanna bet she is not stronger than even you? :calmYep, she'd kick Joe Kinney butt in total body strength (yes including squats) AND grip. At least she closed a #2.5 and got a filled #3 to 1/8". Still waiting since day first on your Ronnie Coleman set attempt on a  #3. It seems only I did it.

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