Mike Rinderle Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Played with my new toy today. Should have done the 2" first. May have gotten 400.  @Lucasraymond and @Jedd Johnson have a killer product here. 500 X 5 on 1" handles - actually 1.25" 395 lbs on 2" handles Need a longer loading pin or skinnier plates. Edited June 7, 2018 by Mike Rinderle 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Mike Rinderle said: Need a longer loading pin or skinnier plates And the kid boxes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I really liked the 2 3/8 -- I think my limitation is my frame's ability to pull the weight, not my ability to hold on with my hands, so I would likely top out just under 300 no matter the width of the handle. Heck, is there a 3" handle? I could probably do almost as much on that as 1 inch, but at 3 inches at least 300 would sound like a good pull lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kluv#0 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Nice pulling Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vinnie said: And the kid boxes! Those were all higher than 6".  Being 6'4" helps.  Lol Edited June 5, 2018 by Mike Rinderle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Mike Rinderle said: Played with my new toy today. Should have done the 2" first. May have gotten 400.  @Lucasraymond and @Jedd Johnson have a killer product here. 500 X 5 on 1" handles 395 lbs on 2" handles Need a longer loading pin or skinnier plates. Big Daddy THOR doin what he do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Vinnie said: I really liked the 2 3/8 -- I think my limitation is my frame's ability to pull the weight, not my ability to hold on with my hands, so I would likely top out just under 300 no matter the width of the handle. Heck, is there a 3" handle? I could probably do almost as much on that as 1 inch, but at 3 inches at least 300 would sound like a good pull lol. You might surprise yourself Vinnie.  Lots of smaller guys can pull north of 400 with a little concentrated training.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 Got 400 on the 2" NN 4 hundy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 3:20 PM, Mike Rinderle said: Got 400 on the 2" NN 4 hundy How would that compare to 400 on an axle DO deadlift? Which is harder? I assume the axle, but just asking.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Vinnie said: How would that compare to 400 on an axle DO deadlift? Which is harder? I assume the axle, but just asking.  Axle 30-50lb harder depending on person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mike Rinderle said: Axle 30-50lb harder depending on person Thanks. 400 sounds so high to me either way. Nice lift! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vinnie said: How would that compare to 400 on an axle DO deadlift? Which is harder? I assume the axle, but just asking.  I can do 450 on 2 inch NN and can 2 inch axle 360-370 max depending on the day  so itâs a lot different Edited June 11, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, Vinnie said: Thanks. 400 sounds so high to me either way. Nice lift! They say what you can get on the 2 3/8 inch NN is what you can 2 inch axle. I find that to be about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 My 2" axle is at 360. I can only do 338 on 2 3/8 and 400 on 2" NN. Â Everyone is different based on their sttengths for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike Rinderle said: My 2" axle is at 360. I can only do 338 on 2 3/8 and 400 on 2" NN. Â Everyone is different based on their sttengths for sure. Absolutely. Itâs hard to say as a hard and fast rule. There are no hard and fast rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) The textured paint on top of the high pick up height makes the difference. The axle is smooth steel while the NN has textured paint. Edited June 11, 2018 by Chez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Chez said: The textured paint on top of the high pick up height makes the difference. The axle is smooth steel while the NN has textured paint. Those help, but I think the main reason is because the weight is suspended below the handle, so you aren't getting the rotation out of your hand that you do on an axle.  The axle brings the thumbs into play more because of the rotation. The rotating handles on an NN definitely add some difficulty back into the equation, but the spread on the two implements depends on your ability to stop the rotation on the axle IMO. Without a spinning handle the weight would skyrocket.  Heck, I once came close on 500 lbs with one hand on a plateau buster, albeit on a smaller handle. 450 & 500 p buster I've done 350 one handed and thumbless on a non spinning 2 3/8" handle when the weight is below on a loading pin.  350 thumbless So I'm guessing, for me anyway, it's the ability to stop the rotation that makes the axle harder. Edited June 11, 2018 by Mike Rinderle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Mike Rinderle said: My 2" axle is at 360. I can only do 338 on 2 3/8 and 400 on 2" NN.  Everyone is different based on their sttengths for sure. My NN max PR is 283, but I never tried an axle max. I held 175 (body weight) on an axle for 54 seconds for the reddit challenge, and I deadlifted 275 on a regular bar and felt like I had 25-50 pounds left in my legs and no issue at all with the grip, so I could probably do in the 283 range on an axle.  I have an axle but I don't have enough weights to put on it to find out, so maybe next time at Anton's I will try. I bet Joe's rule of thumb will be a close estimate for many, though obviously just an estimate and everyone will vary some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dube Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Nice big lifts Mike! Personally, my 2 3/8" NN max and 2 3/8" axle max are about the same. I haven't tried the 2" handles yet but I would expect it's also not far from my 2" axle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, Andrew Dube said: Nice big lifts Mike! Personally, my 2 3/8" NN max and 2 3/8" axle max are about the same. I haven't tried the 2" handles yet but I would expect it's also not far from my 2" axle. Strong thumbs Dube!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dube Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mike Rinderle said: Strong thumbs Dube! Â Thanks, though I think weak fingers is more accurate... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roussin Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Joseph Sullivan said: They say what you can get on the 2 3/8 inch NN is what you can 2 inch axle. I find that to be about right. For me, this rings true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 57 minutes ago, Eric Roussin said: For me, this rings true. Yes me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rinderle Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 Got 600 with just the 1" bare steel. Â 600 So: 1" bare steel: 600 (ran outta room on pin 1.25": 500 2": 400 2 3/8": 338 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Such a great idea Michelino!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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