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Tommy J.

Im looking to buy a new bar. I would only like to have 1 bar that covers all 3 big lifts.

 

things i feel are necessary to cover all 3 big lifts.

1. I want/need sharp knurling

2. Has to have a decent center knurling for squats

3. Has to have a decent amount if whip for deadlifting.

4. (The most difficult factor) bar diameter.

for deadlifting, its my understanding that 27-28.5mm is best for deads, but then again im a grip guy.. so do i really need a thinner diameter bar? Also, thinner diameter bars seem like a possible hinderance to squat and bench? So i cant decide what to look for diameter wise.

 

Also, i can assure that its a high probability that i will never achieve any lift over 650lbs tops. I wont even go heavier than that on rack pulls. So while bar strength also is a factor, i dont need top of the line tensile strength. But something thats strong enough that if i decide to bail on a 400lb squat and the bar hits the safety pins, i would like it to not bend.

and finally, i do not want a cheapo bar.. every cheap bar ive felt has garbage knurling. To me this makes them unacceptable to be doing serious lifting. Sharp/deep knurling is paramount imo.

 

what bar is best that covers all the things i mention?

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KRC

Texas power bar.  Suboptimal for deadlifting criteria but better in the sense that if/when you get on the platform with a real deadloft bar, it could give you a few extra pounds when it counts.  

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Shoggoth

I don’t think you’re going to want whip on your squats and bench. TPB is a great all around bar though. 

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John McCarter

Check out the Rouge westside barbell they sell.

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Martin Gaisser

I've only used the Texas Power Bars and like them very well and have used up to 800lb on them.   I do know Rogue has a Westside bar they sell that I'm sure is high quality too.  Being used to the stiffer bars my whole life the first time I tried a deadlift bar I went ahead and loaded it up and nearly threw my back out.  It had so much flex it drastically changed my start position and threw me off really bad.  Dang rookie mistakes.  Lol.  

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Shoggoth
2 hours ago, Martin Gaisser said:

I've only used the Texas Power Bars and like them very well and have used up to 800lb on them.   I do know Rogue has a Westside bar they sell that I'm sure is high quality too.  Being used to the stiffer bars my whole life the first time I tried a deadlift bar I went ahead and loaded it up and nearly threw my back out.  It had so much flex it drastically changed my start position and threw me off really bad.  Dang rookie mistakes.  Lol.  

I've got both the TPB and Rogue Westside bar and they're both very comparable. Centre knurling is a little longer on the Westside bar. I also have a Okie deadlift bar but like you it throws me out of position too much. I have way better pulls with stiffer bars.

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Tommy J.

Thanks fellas for the input. I had been eyeing the TPB before i posted. While i do dig that rogue westside bar's wide center knurling, its nearly another c-note higher than the TPB.

 

i had not considered training with a stiff bar on deads so that a comp bar would add weight on the dead. I dig that idea!

i have a good deadlift bar Eric gave me, but since it is slightly bent, i thought i might need a replacement as i get stronger. 

 

in all honesty, im probably counting my chickens before they hatch.. its my understanding that i wont even see the benefits of a good deadlift bar till im in the 450# + range. And im not there yet.

good center knurling is a must for me tho.. i have recently been told that i am a high bar squatter, but have a problem with the bar sliding down my back. Im hoping a good sharp center knurl can help fix that problem.

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Shoggoth

Another option to look at through Rogue is their Ohio bar.

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Tommy J.

Thanks fellas for the replies. Ended up with an Ohio Power Bar i scored from Eric along with a truckload of plates! Only did a little deadlifting and over head pressing with it thus far. But im already in love with the sharp knurling and feel of the bar.

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Mike Rinderle

The Ohio Power Bar is a great bar.  More than enough for most of us mere mortals.  Great all around bar.  Especially if you can score a used one!!!

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maidenfan

I’ve owned a few bars, including the Texas power bar - it served me well for many years.  The bar I was impressed the most with was my American barbell stainless training bar (Olympic lift) - awesome quality and feel.  I’m sure their power line is equally impressive

https://americanbarbell.com/collections/powerlifting-bars

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Tommy J.
On 3/16/2018 at 2:04 PM, maidenfan said:

This one is the strongest bar i think, right?

thank you for the links. Man before i reignited my interest in lifting again recently, i had never given lifting bars much thought. But just the feel of the ohio bar i got makes me realize ive been missing out.. i certainly will check into and try out other bars down the road.

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Tommy J.
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Oh and i saw a vid somewhere of one of Chris’ bars on a machine lathe. He had it set up to spin in the machine, and then moved another quality bar up against his bar, knurling to knurling, and his bar literally ate through the other bar. It was pretty wild. Just goes to show how hard his bars steel is!

 

edit: here it is 

 

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maidenfan

Reality is, any good quality bar, like the Ohio or tpb, will serve us normal people just fine.  

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Tommy J.
9 minutes ago, maidenfan said:

Reality is, any good quality bar, like the Ohio or tpb, will serve us normal people just fine.  

Lol, for sure!

 

have you seen the rogue elephant bar? That thing is ridiculous.. i think the ends are like more than 36” long! It looks that way anyways. Lol

i noticed on the Arnold strongman deadlift event this year they hosted the rogue elephant bar. Some of the guys went up over 1000lbs with what appeared to be super wide plates that took up more space than normal, and the bar STILL had a foot and a half of free space hanging out the ends. I sort of shook my head at that.. not sure a bar that long is necessary even for worlds strongest men. Lol 

im pretty sure if i used 25k discs only, i could load this Ohio bar up to 1200lbs. ....and then i could just look at it. And maybe do a selfie with it in the back ground. But it certainly wouldnt get budged! 😆

but really, until someone lifts more than 1200 or so, i dont think there is any such need for 12’ long elephant bars. Lol

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Rogue makes a lot of ridiculous (sometimes cool) stuff.  Crossfit is a manufacturers dream lol.  A different company, but similar to rogues marketing strategy (military, cool, Crossfit, trendy, etc), goruck makes backpacks out of cordura and somehow they’re worth $400 lol   The best part is carrying around a cheap loaded pack or bag will make you tougher and stronger, but not as cool    Who do you think is stronger - the homeless guy who packs his life around all day or the crossfitter w his goruck pack?

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Tommy J.

Lol! Definitely the homeless guy! 

And the homeless guy also scores more cool points for not having a hipster pack!

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