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I'm not even completely against getting rid of the axle. As long as the best gripsters are all competing on the same fatbar device or devices, so that we can have some meaningful records, then I'm fine. 

 

I just don't see how getting rid of the axle will magically grow grip all of a sudden. 

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Hey grip guys, the following is no hate against anyone. It is in my mind and i have to write it - so it is out of my mind :-) In Grip Sport every lift, every contest is discussed without end

Over the years i have been one pushing for the inclusion of climbers - which pretty much means weight classes.  Many climbers weigh from 135 to 155 - so asking them to have a 4 plate DL is a bit much

Sorry, this got long. I've done pretty well with axle, for what I'm working with. I got within about 5 lbs of a double BW lift (pulled 295 at 150).   I wouldn't say boycotting though. For me

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At the end of the day organizers include whatever lifts they want so its a meaningless discussion. No lifts have ever been 'banned'.

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On 8/8/2017 at 0:57 PM, Alawadhi said:

So what's your point here? Yes genetic helps a lot and we should deal with it and train harder.

my point is - while anyone can push the limits of their genetic capacity by training hard, these limits are obviously different for different ppl. one man's limit is another man's starting point type deal. so while I'm all for "training harder" I'm being realistic about these things. 

 

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14 hours ago, beef_supreme said:

my point is - while anyone can push the limits of their genetic capacity by training hard, these limits are obviously different for different ppl. one man's limit is another man's starting point type deal. so while I'm all for "training harder" I'm being realistic about these things. 

 

True but that's life and same goes to everything. I mean you cannot discredit Usain Bolt because his genetics are better. Or Hussein Rezazadeh weightlifting record for having a better genetics. Or even @Morgan grip for having amazing genetics. This is life and how we are built/luck is part of it.

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4 hours ago, Alawadhi said:

True but that's life and same goes to everything. I mean you cannot discredit Usain Bolt because his genetics are better. Or Hussein Rezazadeh weightlifting record for having a better genetics. Or even @Morgan grip for having amazing genetics. This is life and how we are built/luck is part of it.

I'm not looking at this from a "someone's is more gifted and that's unfair" perspective. Being realistic about these things doesn't hurt however and can be applied in practice to one's goals/programming etc. 

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climber511

Genetic advantages for "grip" can be pretty specific.  You may get one for grippers but not much else - or pinch - or fat bar etc.  Only a few get the advantage all around - most of us find ourselves naturally better in one area than the others.   Play to your strengths - work the heck out of your weaknesses - have some fun!

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