Jared Goguen Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Feeling good about this. 50.5lbs came off the floor but slipped. Edited June 17, 2016 by Jared Goguen 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthar Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Nice lift, the 50 will come soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Fleming Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Damn dude! Your hub work is amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, Daniel Fleming said: Damn dude! Your hub work is amazing! Thanks dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 I think my hub lifting technique is fine by I would like to hear opinions. Here's the rules from David's site. Only the Hub is to be grasped. To keep this lift within the spirit of the Hub Lift (proper ‘claw’ style), only the fingertips of the thumb, index and middle fingers are to grasp the Hub. The fingertips are the distal phalanges. The other two fingers may oppose, or not be on at all. These are the fingers that grasp slightly slanted. The apparatus is lifted until the marker jutting out at the bottom (at 3.5” from the floor) touches a horizontal bar placed at 16.5”, measured from the underside of the bar to the floor. This allows a 13” lift. There is no referee’s signal. You do not have to be erect upon completion. You must lower the weight under control (hand grasping it all the way down). If the top accidentally touches the bar before the weight itself, referee’s discretion will be used to judge whether the correct height was attained. You must not intentionally tilt the apparatus to gain leverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I beleive Horne requires the finger be vertical on the hub, not 100% sure though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 My advice: message David directly on this bro. He's the one that'll give you the best answer. It's just speculation from everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 What do you think @David Horne? I think this is a perfect fine way to lift the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Jose Cabrera said: I beleive Horne requires the finger be vertical on the hub, not 100% sure though Countless hub lifts in comes have bent fingers. No one hubs as if they are pinching with perfectly straight fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odin Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Great work Jared! I hereby dub thee "Hubcules". I foresee a supermatch with Hubgeezer in your future. Be aware, and beware, he is something like 12-1 in hub-related competition. With your work ethic and perseverance plus hubbing talent, you definitely have a great shot vs. Mike in the near future. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, odin said: Great work Jared! I hereby dub thee "Hubcules". I foresee a supermatch with Hubgeezer in your future. Be aware, and beware, he is something like 12-1 in hub-related competition. With your work ethic and perseverance plus hubbing talent, you definitely have a great shot vs. Mike in the near future. I'm going to try my best live up to that name. I'm giving it my all here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mitti Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Monster Lift Jared! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 minute ago, David Mitti said: Monster Lift Jared! Thank you David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 13 hours ago, Jared Goguen said: Countless hub lifts in comes have bent fingers. No one hubs as if they are pinching with perfectly straight fingers. I meant you can't curl the fingers on the side, you should ask him. Im aware that few people lift with perfectly straight fingers. I think there was a pretty big debate over the grip some time ago. I personally curl the thumb, which i dont think is allowed in his comps. Again i could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Did anyone watch the video i posted? Im not using the sides of my fingers. If twisting your fingers up is against the rules then they need to be re written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Dude, of course i watched your video, and it was a crazy lift on a shallow hub. The rules on this lift are very confusing and vague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Shit iv never bothered training the shallow hub because i thought i cant tuck my thumb, if i can, its on homie, im comin for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Nah dude the video above where i show clearly how im grasping the hub. I'm tucking or doing anything different then anyone else or anything that has been done and videoed at once of Davids comps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I saw, i understand what youre doing with youre hand, with the hub you want your palm as close as possible to create pressure, its the angle of the fingers that may not be allowed. To be clear, im very happy for you, that was an awesome lift.please dont get my intentions twisted, communication on this is tricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeezus Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 That video of David is exactly how Jared is gripping the hub, so I would assume that it is allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Raftopoulos Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Good job again Jared, your hub work is very strong and I'm not trying to take anything away from that just to be clear. When I first watched the video on instagram it looked like a doorknob grip because of the twist of the fingers, it's hard to tell if the sides of the fingers touch the hub or not. I also I had the impression that the rules are strict -with fingers not rotating or maybe rotating a little. In King Kong last year I didn't twist my fingers at all because I thought it was not allowed, and neither did the other competitors here in California from what I remember. I originally asked Jared about it on IG because I wanted to make sure I know the rules well in case I host a king kong this year. I've seen crazy techniques on the hub and IMO as long as everyone follows the same rules it doesn't matter. A strict form without any twisting though will always be more bulletproof to judging. But I undestand with grip sport even small changes in finger placement can make a good difference and if the technique is legal then why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Raftopoulos Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 and thank you Jared for motivating me to train the shallow hub as we speak lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 This is what David said on the subject. "Jared, I've just viewed your video. Firstly your style of lift: only the end phalange on each digit is allowed to grip the hub. So when you straighten your grip this is fine. But if you start the lift with the slanted style and with a part of the middle phalange touching, then this is a failed lift. Secondly the Shallow Hub has to be performed on a rigid World of Grip Shallow Hub, but I'm guessing you know this, and are just training with the hub you are using. Hope this helps, David" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Raftopoulos Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 thanks for sharing man, just to be clear the start of the lift is after the wt leaves the floor right?:P pre loading doesn't count right? would he pass of fail your attempt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Evan Raftopoulos said: thanks for sharing man, just to be clear the start of the lift is after the wt leaves the floor right?:P pre loading doesn't count right? would he pass of fail your attempt? I followed the rules as stated. Clearly you think I didn't and that's fine. Ill keep doing things with in the rules listed, if they rules change then I will change my lift according. His rules are pretty clear. If you feel like they are not clear enough then you should write him and ask him to add more to rules. Only the Hub is to be grasped. To keep this lift within the spirit of the Hub Lift (proper ‘claw’ style), only the fingertips of the thumb, index and middle fingers are to grasp the Hub. The fingertips are the distal phalanges. The other two fingers may oppose, or not be on at all. These are the fingers that grasp slightly slanted. The apparatus is lifted until the marker jutting out at the bottom (at 3.5” from the floor) touches a horizontal bar placed at 16.5”, measured from the underside of the bar to the floor. This allows a 13” lift. There is no referee’s signal. You do not have to be erect upon completion. You must lower the weight under control (hand grasping it all the way down). If the top accidentally touches the bar before the weight itself, referee’s discretion will be used to judge whether the correct height was attained. You must not intentionally tilt the apparatus to gain leverage I have clearly demonstrated that my contact points are only the distal phalanges, and in turn meeting the grasping portion of the rules and I think its pretty clear I lifted it high enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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