Jedd Johnson Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 This video review compares two pieces of grip training equipment, the Rolling Thunder, which has been around for over a decade, and the Wrist Wrench, which has only been around a couple of years. While each piece is great in its own way, I give my honest feedback as to which one I think is a better option for you, especially in regards to training to lift challenge dumbbells, like the Thomas Inch Replica. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Fixed an error in the thread title for you Jedd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave murray Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 This video review compares two pieces of grip training equipment, the Rolling Thunder, which has been around for over a decade, and the Wrist Wrench, which has only been around a couple of years. While each piece is great in its own way, I give my honest feedback as to which one I think is a better option for you, especially in regards to training to lift challenge dumbbells, like the Thomas Inch Replica. where would a person get a new wrist wrench? well, it would be my first. i already have a rolling thunder. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 In talking with Mike Cochran, the maker of the WW, he said they are currently out of stock, but I believe all of the sales go through the Wrist Wrench fan page on Facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickg Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 That's how I ended up getting mine. Also talked to him on a Facebook for a bit real cool guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odin Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I agree 100% on your conclusion Jedd, nice work on the video. The WW is an excellent tool. The violence of the WW's rotation is a double-edged sword. Break into this lift slowly, especially if you haven't done a lot of thickbar work, as I've seen guys get dinged up or w/ extreme soreness that lasts many days from too much work/weight too soon. Wrist, thumb and biceps of different guys have been tweaked (nothing major), but it does approximate the Inch's rotation better than anything, and w/ less weight used too. I've only seen one guy who could lift 100+ lbs. on the WW that had never gotten a full Inch pull. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Goguen Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I have both the wrist wrench and my now barely rolling thunder and I think if your goal is inch style bells the you can't beat the wrist wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I concur with this review. Based on anecdotal evidence on the RT and personal experience with the WW I talked with mike about getting a bigger one made, but that was awhile back and not sure if he still has interest in pursuing that. I don't use my WW as often as my other stuff simply because it will hammer you. I've managed 90 pounds fresh on it, but that was awhile go as well I need to retest and see if I got an extra 5 to 10 in me. I cant wait for someone to use it as an event, it will be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasraymond Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I agree 100% on your conclusion Jedd, nice work on the video. The WW is an excellent tool. The violence of the WW's rotation is a double-edged sword. Break into this lift slowly, especially if you haven't done a lot of thickbar work, as I've seen guys get dinged up or w/ extreme soreness that lasts many days from too much work/weight too soon. Wrist, thumb and biceps of different guys have been tweaked (nothing major), but it does approximate the Inch's rotation better than anything, and w/ less weight used too. I've only seen one guy who could lift 100+ lbs. on the WW that had never gotten a full Inch pull. I am one of those guys bob...did 100+lbs on WW replica (steel handle vs PVC)...still not full lift of the Inch Edited January 22, 2016 by Lucasraymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I agree 100% on your conclusion Jedd, nice work on the video. The WW is an excellent tool. The violence of the WW's rotation is a double-edged sword. Break into this lift slowly, especially if you haven't done a lot of thickbar work, as I've seen guys get dinged up or w/ extreme soreness that lasts many days from too much work/weight too soon. Wrist, thumb and biceps of different guys have been tweaked (nothing major), but it does approximate the Inch's rotation better than anything, and w/ less weight used too. I've only seen one guy who could lift 100+ lbs. on the WW that had never gotten a full Inch pull. I am one of those guys bob...did 100+lbs on WW replica (steel handle vs PVC)...still not full lift of the Inch What is the handle of the WW made of? If plastic, would steel make a difference. Is the diameter of the WW the same as the Inch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasraymond Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I agree 100% on your conclusion Jedd, nice work on the video. The WW is an excellent tool. The violence of the WW's rotation is a double-edged sword. Break into this lift slowly, especially if you haven't done a lot of thickbar work, as I've seen guys get dinged up or w/ extreme soreness that lasts many days from too much work/weight too soon. Wrist, thumb and biceps of different guys have been tweaked (nothing major), but it does approximate the Inch's rotation better than anything, and w/ less weight used too. I've only seen one guy who could lift 100+ lbs. on the WW that had never gotten a full Inch pull. I am one of those guys bob...did 100+lbs on WW replica (steel handle vs PVC)...still not full lift of the Inch What is the handle of the WW made of? If plastic, would steel make a difference. Is the diameter of the WW the same as the Inch? Ive made both PVC and Steel in 2" and 2.375"...I prefer the feel of the steel. If you are interested I can make you one...PM me if interested 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odin Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I agree 100% on your conclusion Jedd, nice work on the video. The WW is an excellent tool. The violence of the WW's rotation is a double-edged sword. Break into this lift slowly, especially if you haven't done a lot of thickbar work, as I've seen guys get dinged up or w/ extreme soreness that lasts many days from too much work/weight too soon. Wrist, thumb and biceps of different guys have been tweaked (nothing major), but it does approximate the Inch's rotation better than anything, and w/ less weight used too. I've only seen one guy who could lift 100+ lbs. on the WW that had never gotten a full Inch pull. I am one of those guys bob...did 100+lbs on WW replica (steel handle vs PVC)...still not full lift of the Inch Luke, you pulled the Inch high enough so that it is more than obvious you will finish it off to your satisfaction on a good day when fresh. Your replica may also be easier or harder than an original WW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ive made both PVC and Steel in 2" and 2.375"...I prefer the feel of the steel. If you are interested I can make you one...PM me if interested Actually I was wanting to know the material of the original WW that Jedd is comparing against with the RT in his above vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avasatu Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Isn't the real question crushers vs ww? What are crushers ideal for that ww isn't so ideal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucasraymond Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ive made both PVC and Steel in 2" and 2.375"...I prefer the feel of the steel. If you are interested I can make you one...PM me if interested Actually I was wanting to know the material of the original WW that Jedd is comparing against with the RT in his above vid PVC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Like everything it depends on the goal. I'm sure Jedd covers the Crusher along with other Inch training devises. My 0.02$ If your goal is to lift a 173 Inch dumbbell and your going to use a rolling handle as a primary training tool it's going to look a little like this. Rolling thunder you'll need to pull a lot more than 173. 2.5" Crusher going to be close to 173. Almost pound for pound but I would guess you should have a high 170's low 180's pull to be safe. WW will be a lot less than 173. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odin Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Like everything it depends on the goal. I'm sure Jedd covers the Crusher along with other Inch training devises. My 0.02$ If your goal is to lift a 173 Inch dumbbell and your going to use a rolling handle as a primary training tool it's going to look a little like this. Rolling thunder you'll need to pull a lot more than 173. 2.5" Crusher going to be close to 173. Almost pound for pound but I would guess you should have a high 170's low 180's pull to be safe. WW will be a lot less than 173. I would say Andrew is dead-on re: crusher. What I've told people is a good proxy for an Inch lift(depending on what they're using to train): WW: 100+ Crusher 172+ Axle: 210 1H to knee height RT: too much variability, depending on the age of the RT. Would have to try a brand-knew one to get an idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avasatu Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Has anyone successfully trained for the Inch by only utilizing one of the WW or 2.5" Crusher? Just out of curiosity. Edited January 23, 2016 by avasatu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I agree 100% on your conclusion Jedd, nice work on the video. The WW is an excellent tool. The violence of the WW's rotation is a double-edged sword. Break into this lift slowly, especially if you haven't done a lot of thickbar work, as I've seen guys get dinged up or w/ extreme soreness that lasts many days from too much work/weight too soon. Wrist, thumb and biceps of different guys have been tweaked (nothing major), but it does approximate the Inch's rotation better than anything, and w/ less weight used too. I've only seen one guy who could lift 100+ lbs. on the WW that had never gotten a full Inch pull. I am one of those guys bob...did 100+lbs on WW replica (steel handle vs PVC)...still not full lift of the InchWell.... you also have some of the strongest wrists most of us have seen. Maybe the WRIST-wrench met its match. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KapMan Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Like everything it depends on the goal. I'm sure Jedd covers the Crusher along with other Inch training devises. My 0.02$ If your goal is to lift a 173 Inch dumbbell and your going to use a rolling handle as a primary training tool it's going to look a little like this. Rolling thunder you'll need to pull a lot more than 173. 2.5" Crusher going to be close to 173. Almost pound for pound but I would guess you should have a high 170's low 180's pull to be safe. WW will be a lot less than 173. Crusher 172+ Axle: 210 1H to knee height Well I've got my work cut out for me if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slazbob Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 In talking with Mike Cochran, the maker of the WW, he said they are currently out of stock, but I believe all of the sales go through the Wrist Wrench fan page on Facebook.Just ordered one from him, Jedd. He said it would be out this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The wrist wrench is an absolutely brilliant grip tool. I can do high volume with it but I suspect those who just started training grip could easily injure themselves if they went too hard too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riccardomagni Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Thanks for posting this video, Jedd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riccardomagni Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Thanks for posting this video, Jedd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Has anyone successfully trained for the Inch by only utilizing one of the WW or 2.5" Crusher? Just out of curiosity. I highly doubt it, since the WW is so new and the Crusher just became available again last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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