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strongkeith

g'day guys, i was about to slap out a for 4 grippers being a trainer 1 2 and 2.5 but quickly stopped just to make sure i was gonna buy the right stuff, i seen the Robert Baraban Adjustable Hand Gripper which for me works out to be the same price as the 4 grippers, if my goal is to not certify on grippers but just build a monster strong crushing strength and grip would i be better off to go with the cOc's or an adjustable???? also if i was to go for the cOc's should i got for a trainer 1, 2 and 3 or 2 and 2.5? cheers as for my training i lift alot so thats why i was going to get higher grippers as i feel i will progress fairly quick

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climber511

I'm probably the only guy on this forum who will give this advice. Buy an Ivanko Super Gripper (Baraban copied it which I think is wrong) if your goal is simply to develop your hand strength. But if you have any interest in saying "I can close a x,y.z gripper" then you should buy the Torsion spring grippers of your choice. TSGs are as much a skill as a strength test in my mind.

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barbe705

does the ISG carry over? I know that I tried to use just vulcan and it really killed my normal gripper strength.

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Bearcat 74

I have not seen carry over with the ISG but like Chris said unless you are looking to cert or close the highest grippers it is a great tool and it makes a lot of sense. I agree with Chris, if you are looking to simply gain strength while using a gripper the ISG/Vise gripper is the way to go.

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It depends. For instance if you want to know if you can close a #2, #2.5, or/and #3 then get those. For you never really know unless you are working with the product. Plus you can use harder variations with your training. For instance if a #2 is your goal and where you are at, then train with the #2.5 plus other gripping exercises. Just my 2-cents.

The adjustable looks cool, but IMHO I passed. I also owned the Ivanko and hated it. If I were to go back to a gripping tool, I prefer guillotine devices over any other gripping tool. However, I would like to have the Vulcan Gripper. So I am kind of hypocritical too.

But when it comes to grip training, my two favorite tool is towel and rope for pull-ups as well as other pulling tools and Fat Gripz! I just ordered the orange pair and keeping my blue ones on my home-made ab-rollers.

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strongkeith

Hmm man to many good points I think to myself what I want and although hand crushing strength is the ultimate goal the rights to say I closed said gripper number carries a nice calling with it so I think cOc's are the choice as for which grippers is a trainer #1 #2 and a #2.5 the way to go or should I get a trainer 1,2 and 3? Thanks all for your comments like anything I will likely end up with both anyway btw can you get certified for cOc's in Australia or is that for the states only?

Also in regards to the fat grips I got a pair on its way bought ages ago still waiting plan to use these to train with on deadlifts for future strongman events as my gym didn't have thick bars

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I wouldn't bother with the trainer. Things like just doing pull-ups using a towel to hang from will get you pass the Trainer in no time. If you have trouble with the #1 then it goes w/out saying to at least get that one.

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Josh O'Dell

I would suggest the T,0.5,1,1.5 and the 2 for your goal gripper, Thats just a ideal though.

You need a lighter gripper for warm ups and recovery i use the 0.5 for that.

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I started a thread to get peoples thoughts on warmups which I personally stopped doing years ago for all my workouts (grip and non-grip related). For a universal argument, do those that do mason such as carry flagstone do warmups before they carry stone back and forth? That alone will give you one hell of a grip.

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Autolupus

I started a thread to get peoples thoughts on warmups which I personally stopped doing years ago for all my workouts (grip and non-grip related). For a universal argument, do those that do mason such as carry flagstone do warmups before they carry stone back and forth? That alone will give you one hell of a grip.

The stones they carry back and forth will be no way near a 1RM or they would only be lifting it once! Brickies and masons will usually have a very good hand strength but there daily work routine would be more like low weight high rep endurance conditioning!

I wasn't aware that Baraban copied the ISG too! I know he ripped off David's Vulcan! Which is a very worthwhile tool.

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climber511

I started a thread to get peoples thoughts on warmups which I personally stopped doing years ago for all my workouts (grip and non-grip related). For a universal argument, do those that do mason such as carry flagstone do warmups before they carry stone back and forth? That alone will give you one hell of a grip.

The stones they carry back and forth will be no way near a 1RM or they would only be lifting it once! Brickies and masons will usually have a very good hand strength but there daily work routine would be more like low weight high rep endurance conditioning!

I wasn't aware that Baraban copied the ISG too! I know he ripped off David's Vulcan! Which is a very worthwhile tool.

I think you are correct - it was the Vulcan. I still say the ISG is just as good for general hand strength development. - but "everyone" who asks this question really wants to know what TSG they can close so they have already answered their own question it seems. I never recommend TSGs for my climbing friends - always an ISG or a machine.

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Josh O'Dell

I would also work the exstensor muscles with a strong rubberband, Ironmind also makes some.

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Stephen Ruby

I'm probably the only guy on this forum who will give this advice. Buy an Ivanko Super Gripper (Baraban copied it which I think is wrong) if your goal is simply to develop your hand strength. But if you have any interest in saying "I can close a x,y.z gripper" then you should buy the Torsion spring grippers of your choice. TSGs are as much a skill as a strength test in my mind.

I agree with this

I worked a few years ago with TSG for fun and stopped until late last year when I got a vulcan and only worked with that primarily and it did have carry over for me to TSG. I got up to a level 21 on the vulcan-guess would be rated at around 170 at final close and mid 180 during the start- but at the time I could not close a 3.5 gripper until I worked with TSG more-I knew I had the strength but the TSG felt much different in the hand-. So if your goal is to close TSG and cert on those I think its best to work with those but if you just want to develop crush grip an adjustable is a smart buy.

Once I get some more money and start training crush again I want to invest in the GHP grippers.

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strongkeith

After all has been said and done I have ended up going for an adjustable set just for the fact its more versatile to my needs but in saying that next month I will order a set of cOc's too

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