kasparov Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Hi, Was wondering what you guys think are the absolute limits in terms of crushing strength for humans? Can the ghp 10, bb pro, and even the bb world class be closed at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Ok, thanks for the response. Yes I have been watching vogt's videos on YouTube, he is awfully close to a #4 ccs and block set ghp 9. Still the ghp10, is a full 40 real pounds above the ghp 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Of the grippers that I have, BB World Class is a definite no for any man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashtan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think, WC, TT10 and GHP10 can not be closed. It would not be a man in the traditional sense of the word. I think the pinnacle of human achievement will be: RB400, FBBC Super, Python Grip model 180 - TNS BB Pro, MM10, HG500, BC500 - MMS JBG - Deep set or chocker set 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Doesn't the bb world class rgc very close to the ghp 10? If not a little more, like around the 270lbs mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think all of the above are very possible for Silverback and Joe Kinney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwnate Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think Nathan has closed (or is very close) to closing the GHP 10...when he widens his set (def within the next two years), we'll see a GHP cert pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Gripsport is very, very young. If you look at the development of world records in other sports, it would be a good guess that we are still in the steep part of the performance curve over time. Lots more possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellswindstaff Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Gripsport is very, very young. If you look at the development of world records in other sports, it would be a good guess that we are still in the steep part of the performance curve over time. Lots more possible. 1+ Don't think of yourself in terms of limitations, because once you have set the limit then you've created a mental ceiling. Then again, I'm just some 2.5 closer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think Nathan has closed (or is very close) to closing the GHP 10...when he widens his set (def within the next two years), we'll see a GHP cert pop up. Based on his GHP 9 Cert, I think Nathan Holle can close a BB Pro MMS right now no problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Gripsport is very, very young. If you look at the development of world records in other sports, it would be a good guess that we are still in the steep part of the performance curve over time. Lots more possible. 1+ Don't think of yourself in terms of limitations, because once you have set the limit then you've created a mental ceiling. Then again, I'm just some 2.5 closer. Yeah, I know what that's like. No matter what level I'm currently at, if I let my mind think to much about it, the limitations of my body/mind start setting in. As for being a #2.5 closer, that's only a place as to where you currently are in your training; you could think to yourself and change something that you're doing and next thing you know, you could be closing bigger grippers within no time. I wish you luck in moving on to bigger grippers man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 On grippers, I think the real limit that we'll see for a long time is the GHP 9 and CoC #4. I'm sure there is a person(s) out there right now who, if they trained in the right manner, could come and just destroy the GHP 10, Tetting Pro, MM10, or any other gripper that is beyond human reach right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopholes Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think the only real limit is that "Hercules" gripper Tetting made. But really, given time to adapt and grow, it is amazing what the human spirit is capable of. We are only in the beginning stages of this sport I think. Someday the #4 will not be the Goliath it is today, but more like a right of passage, something that many close every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Just wondering who silverback is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McCarter Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Just wondering who silverback is? A guy who made claims that he was going to cert the #4 within a year. He made videos (but then take them down) of him closing certain grippers. Some of the videos he made were funny, but there's suspect to the bigger grippers he was claiming, the #3 may have been real, but when it comes to him closing the GHP Level 9 I doubt that; he became the laughing stock of the grip world for not following through on his claims. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 "I think Nathan has closed (or is very close) to closing the GHP 10...when he widens his set (def within the next two years), we'll see a GHP cert pop up." Has holle really closed the ghp 10? Can anyone verify this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 "I think Nathan has closed (or is very close) to closing the GHP 10...when he widens his set (def within the next two years), we'll see a GHP cert pop up." Has holle really closed the ghp 10? Can anyone verify this? No that is just speculation. But there is more in the tank for Nathan than GHP9 for sure if we tried to guess what he can close with a parallel set without a pause. There is great difference between set widths, paused closes, paused block set closes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Can I just quickly get an explanation of the abbreviations? mms? tns? I know what ccs is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honk Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) I don't want to go into gripper models and names, but I think a #255 gripper will be closed within the next 20 years, possibly sooner. Provied the "sport" continues it's growth of course. Yes, I do have a crystal ball. MMS = mash monster set = parallel set TNS = table no set = place gripper on table, then use ONE hand to close it. Edited November 23, 2012 by honk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Gillingham Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I think a GHP 10 can be closed. When Nathan certified on the GHP 9 the video he sent was not his only close of the session but the best one on he recorded. Basically he owned the gripper to do what he did and I have a lot of video proof from him proving to me that this was not a fluke - easy or tampered with Level 9, etc.. It will take some time for guys like Jonathan Vogt or Nathan to get there but I do believe they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Is there a video of anyone attempting the ghp 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Gillingham Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) I think a GHP 10 can be closed. When Nathan certified on the GHP 9 the video he sent was not his only close of the session but the best one on he recorded. Basically he owned the gripper to do what he did and I have a lot of video proof from him proving to me that this was not a fluke - easy or tampered with Level 9, etc.. It will take some time for guys like Jonathan Vogt or Nathan to get there but I do believe they can. Wade, any chance we can see the vids of Nathans more dominant level 9 closes? ..that would be rad. I would love for people to see what I have but Nathan is pretty private so I feel funny about even mentioning that I have other videos that he shared with me and no it's nothing with the GHP 10 or anything harder than the GHP 9 but it does involve reps and wider sets. I can't share them out of respect for him. However I did confirm with him that the video floating around of him doing reps on the #4 was him and he did say that #4 was close to the same difficulty as the GHP9 that he closed. I can also say that I feel strongly that Nathan has the strongest crushing grip in the world at this time. Edited November 23, 2012 by Wade Gillingham 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueviper42 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I think all of the above are very possible for Silverback and Joe Kinney. I really can't tell if you meant this is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasparov Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 I think all of the above are very possible for Silverback and Joe Kinney. I really can't tell if you meant this is a joke. He's being sarcastic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yummy Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I think the ghp 10 can be closed by some men but not all. I think its a tough thing to realize that some people are more gifted with strength then others just like some might be more mentally gifted then others or faster etc. I've noticed especially with hand strength that some guys just have a naturally very strong grip regardless of training and with training have much higher limits then those with a naturally weak grip. I thought the #3 was impossible for me for years but I'm pretty close to closing it now although some guys on here have been able to close it in a few months. I don't think this has anything to do with them training harder but just the fact they are more gifted. The world is a big place and grip is a very small sport but I think if you had some of those naturally gifted football players training grip more you would probably see some #4 ccs closes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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