Hannes Kainz Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Hy Everyone, I have started to train armwrestling since 4 weeks. That says i have no idea what is going on. I will compend at a event in one month ( Austrian open cup +105kg ri) I think i have seen every vid on YT about armwrestling, but there a lot of questions !!!!!!! I have made a few vids of my first tryes to train for armwrestling. I hope there is anyone who can give me a few comments to this vids. I dount know if the moves are good or bad ?? I know my biceps is weak, and my wrists and hands and lower arms (on the right) are strong. What do you guys think should i train, to get the best results in a short time! Thanks a lot for comments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Hannes, Later this evening I will try and give you some suggestions for your AW'ing training in more detail but here's the main issues I see that need attention before developing any bad habits: 1) Gaps in your setup. Too much space between your upper arm and lat and too much space between your forearm and bicep. Gaps = energy leaks! 2)Your arm is not positioned correctly for optimal power. Keep your arm within your shoulders 3) When doing your DB table curls you're opening up easily (weak biceps & improper setup). 4) You should be working from the elbow pad and not the edge of the table with your movements. 5) Too much range of motion in your exercises. Full ROM is great for keeping your arms healthy but your work sets on the table should be short ROM. More detail when I have time my friend! This weekend I may do you a video to help you out. It depends on my available time. The main thing with competitive arm wrestling is to realize that you will not succeed over night and progress is much slower than regular strength training. Recovery times are at least twice as long and often longer than normal weight training. Try to find an experienced puller to learn proper technique. This is a MUST! BTW, I can tell you're a good guy Hannes! Edited August 9, 2012 by Mighty Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Hannes check out this guy's YouTube videos. Polish arm wrestling trainer. He shows many movements. It is in Polish, but you can get the idea of how they are performed. He has many hundred videos online. Even if you are not an arm wrestler, the movements are good to use anyway Edited August 10, 2012 by zcor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I agree with zcor that this guys movements are great but it's important to understand the explanations specially as a beginner. This guy is one of the best AW'ing trainers on the globe IMO. He has nearly 1000 videos and uses very unique equipment specific for AW'ing training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Browne Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) I agree Joe with the explanation factor of the movements in the specifics for arm wrestling. I used the movemnts in a trial and error just for some fresh and differing arm work. Actually experimenting. For myself I did not use them as training for AW Here is a few explained with english. I think this is his website. http://en.armpower.n...-success-1.html Edited August 11, 2012 by zcor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I agree Joe with the explanation factor of the movements in the specifics for arm wrestling. I used the movemnts in a trial and error just for some fresh and differing arm work. Actually experimenting. For myself I did not use them as training for AW Here is a few explained with english. I think this is his website. http://en.armpower.n...-success-1.html Thanks for sharing this link Rick! I love to read where others experiment! Hats off to you! You bring up an excellent point concerning experimenting with these movements because there's numerous AW'ing specific movements (exercises) that have great therapeutic benefits for the elbows and wrists. The movement where he supinates his hand with the strap under tension is an excellent movement (with light tension) for elbow re-hab/pre-hab regardless if you arm wrestle or not. Glad to read that you're using these movements in your training even if it's just experimenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Kainz Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Thanks for your posts guys! Seems this polnish guy knows how to armwrestle, this vids helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broly Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 You have a great opportunity for some good training especially having a table. Resistance bands will probably be your best friend when training on a table without having a local puller around. Get a few heavy duty resistance bands that have clips on the end so you can connect a number of different attachments to work all sorts of angles. Isometric heavy singles are a good start. I'm not a big fan of dumbbell training on a table. They're better used on a preacher bench or for hammer curls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bishop Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 intertubes from a bike tire can be used also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabertl Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Gut zu sehen, dass du so gas gibst mit dem training ;-))) wie schon joe geschrieben hat, nimm dir genug zeit und lerne die tevhnik korrekt! am ist daür die zeit nach dem turnier wo es immer gute trainings sessions gibt ;-) Gut zu sehen, dass du so gas gibst mit dem training ;-))) wie schon joe geschrieben hat, nimm dir genug zeit und lerne die tevhnik korrekt! am ist daür die zeit nach dem turnier wo es immer gute trainings sessions gibt ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Gut zu sehen, dass du so gas gibst mit dem training ;-))) wie schon joe geschrieben hat, nimm dir genug zeit und lerne die tevhnik korrekt! am ist daür die zeit nach dem turnier wo es immer gute trainings sessions gibt ;-) Gut zu sehen, dass du so gas gibst mit dem training ;-))) wie schon joe geschrieben hat, nimm dir genug zeit und lerne die tevhnik korrekt! am ist daür die zeit nach dem turnier wo es immer gute trainings sessions gibt ;-) Say what??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tja Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Gut zu sehen, dass du so gas gibst mit dem training ;-))) wie schon joe geschrieben hat, nimm dir genug zeit und lerne die tevhnik korrekt! am ist daür die zeit nach dem turnier wo es immer gute trainings sessions gibt ;-) Say what??? He's saying something to this end: Good to see you training hard. As Joe wrote, take your time and learn the technique properly. After a tournament there's always time for a good training session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Kainz Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Bertl, Danke das du den Kontakt zum Markus hergestellt hast! Ich bin fest am trainieren, und freu mich schon aufs Event! Ich hoffe ich kann einen einigermaßen "guten" Gegner abgeben. Beim Max hab ich aber noch meine Schwierigkeiten. Ich weis aber auch vom bending " hard work pays off". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Kainz Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Mighty Joe, Do you think DU and reverse bending is a good training to get stronger writs for armwrestling? My training for AW inkl. this 2 times a week : - warmup 10 min - gripper - bending ( DO , DU, reverse) - traing on the table with bands, and an other puller - pullups - pushups - hammercurls - tumbbellcurls on the table With 2/3 days beetwen the training it feels good for me, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Kainz Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 First event is done! 2nd in +95 le / ri :-) Not so bad i think. There is a lot to learn!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjoe Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Mighty Joe, Do you think DU and reverse bending is a good training to get stronger writs for armwrestling? My training for AW inkl. this 2 times a week : - warmup 10 min - gripper - bending ( DO , DU, reverse) - traing on the table with bands, and an other puller - pullups - pushups - hammercurls - tumbbellcurls on the table With 2/3 days beetwen the training it feels good for me, what do you think? My training for AW inkl. this 2 times a week : - warmup 10 min - YES - gripper - For AW'ing, NO - bending ( DO , DU, reverse) NO - traing on the table with bands, and an other puller - YES - pullups - YES with limited ROM - pushups - YES - hammercurls - YES - tumbbellcurls on the table - NO 2-3 days between training sessions is fine except for pulling days. Longer rest periods are required for most after pulling sessions. Active recovery is great during this rest period. Light resistance/higher reps. Fine tune your technique with mental rehearsals as well. Don't laugh too quick! It works great! As far as DO/DU bending for arm wrestling strength for the wrists, I would strengthen my wrists with more AW'ing specific movements such as revolving handle wrist curls with bands, both static and dynamic with your arm in various, known AW'ing positions. Grippers won't help your hand strength for AW'ing. Think more along the lines of flat finger strength and not crushing strength as in closing a gripper. Flexing your extended fingers under tension/resistance is ideal IMO. Hope this helps and great job on your contest!!! Stay with it but train smart and be patient my friend!!! Edited September 21, 2012 by Mighty Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoggoth Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 First event is done! 2nd in +95 le / ri :-) Not so bad i think. There is a lot to learn!!! Congrats Hannes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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