vikingpower Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Tom. I've been modifying my no.2 in line with your suggestions ie Shortening the length of the handles. I was wondering what are the present length of the handles on your no2 and is it tougher than the Master. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Black Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 I have now cut 9/32" off the handles, 1/32" more than a 1/4". When I originally started I measured the difference between this particular #2 and my Master and determined the difference in overall length to be 1/4". I am now beyond that and my mod #2 is shorter. It's odd, but it feels harder to close, but I can consistently close it more than the Master. I think there are two reasons for this: 1) The #2 started out with less of a spring angle, making it fit in my hand better. 2) I beveled the modified #2 very sharply, the end is a semi-round circle about 1/32" high, with basically a 90-degree edge. This makes positioning of the gripper better, and it doesn't slip as much as a non-modified gripper. If it makes any sense, the mod #2 actually feels harder when closing, but because of 1 and 2 above I close it more consistently and easily. I prefer the way I've designed the end of the handle, and will modify a #3 this way as soon as I start closing it. I have not modified the #2 in a few weeks because I want to completely dominate it before modifying again. In upcoming logs you will see me begin serious work with the #3, and this has taken the edge off of my attempts with the mod #2 after my #3 attempts. My conclusion is that if I cut off 5/16" from my #2 it would definitely be harder than the Master, even with the other differences noted above. Of course, if you don't own a Master or have access to one, this modification is a good substitute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingpower Posted July 10, 2001 Author Share Posted July 10, 2001 Tom thanks for reply. I do not have access to a master and loved your idea, Unfortunatly I did not measure the length of the handle before I started cutting (I know don't say it) but when compared to the length of my other grippers I have so far cut approx 3/16" and can close this now ok so will be taking a touch more of. How close would you estimate this to be to the master? By the way love your York article and would like to see a pic of your gripper handles. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JD79 Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Tom, just measure an uncut gripper handle. I beleive the one thing that is uniform on the grippers is the lenght of the handles. And its hard to tell how tough your gripper will be. I have a very easy #2 that I am modifying and its not even close to my old #2 yet, so this stuff varies quite a bit. Hope this helps. JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingpower Posted July 10, 2001 Author Share Posted July 10, 2001 Thanks JD, I was planning on ordering a 2nd no.2 gripper for comparison, based on what you have just said I will now do this. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JD79 Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Yeah Tom, my two #2s are night and day. The old one took me two years to close. While I was still about 1/4 inch away from this one, I ordered my new #2. I was slamming it shut right out of the bag. The new #2 was a good investment though because about two weeks later I was getting the old #2. Hopefully using Mr. Black's progressive handle routine and some other grip toys, I will close the #3 soon and then who knows? JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Black Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 The handles are very standard at 3.75" or 9.5 cm. Of course, if you have a weak #2 already you may have to cut more off to equal the Master, but I can't imagine you would have to cut off more than 3/8" to make your gripper really tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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