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hello, does anyone have any opinions or experience with the robert baraban adjustable gripper?? with postage it works out at about $125 to get it sent over here to ireland. not so much, but i thought i'd get some advice first. i fancy it because its progressive, and you can move on and see your actual improvement!!

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recruit

hello, does anyone have any opinions or experience with the robert baraban adjustable gripper?? with postage it works out at about $125 to get it sent over here to ireland. not so much, but i thought i'd get some advice first. i fancy it because its progressive, and you can move on and see your actual improvement!!

I bought mine from the Gripper Superstore few days ago.I don't have any problem with him. It's great.RB ajustable calibrated by Draught-Player:Weak Spring

1-1 = 11.4 kg

1-2 = 13.2 kg

2-2 = 14.6 kg

2-3 = 16.2 kg

3-3 = 17.9 kg

3-4 = 19.8 kg

4-4 = 21.9 kg

4-5 = 23.3 kg

5-5 = 25.7 kg

5-6 = 27.2 kg

6-6 = 30.5 kg

6-7 = 32.8 kg

7-7 = 35.4 kg

7-8 = 37.9 kg

8-8 = 40.3 kg

8-9 = 42.2 kg

9-9 = 45.6 kg

9-10= 47.kg

10-10 = 50.8 kg

Hard Spring

1-1 = 28.1 kg

1-2 = 31.4 kg

2-2 = 34.8 kg

2-3 = 39.3 kg

3-3 = 43.7 kg

3-4 = 47.6 kg

4-4 = 52.4 kg

4-5 = 57.3 kg

5-5 = 62.1 kg

5-6 = 66.7 kg

6-6 = 72.8 kg

6-7 = 76.7 kg

7-7 = 82.1 kg

7-8 = 88.1 kg

8-8 = 92.4 kg

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Anthony151

I have the chromed one and thinks its great. The knurling is not to sharp almost perfect. As for the weight ratings above is that accurate? Where would say a COC 1.5 be on this rating system.

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I have the chromed one and thinks its great. The knurling is not to sharp almost perfect. As for the weight ratings above is that accurate? Where would say a COC 1.5 be on this rating system.

COC1.5=level 8-9 weak spring(GripBoard-Rgc Calibrations-page17

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Anthony151

I have the chromed one and thinks its great. The knurling is not to sharp almost perfect. As for the weight ratings above is that accurate? Where would say a COC 1.5 be on this rating system.

COC1.5=level 8-9 weak spring(GripBoard-Rgc Calibrations-page17

Ok thank you

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Шаши&#10

Complete RGC calibration for RBA gripper + CoC comparison levels

Weak Spring

1-1 = 11.4 kg

1-2 = 13.2 kg

2-2 = 14.6 kg ( ~ CoC Guide )

2-3 = 16.2 kg

3-3 = 17.9 kg ( ~ CoC Sport )

3-4 = 19.8 kg

4-4 = 21.9 kg

4-5 = 23.3 kg

5-5 = 25.7 kg

5-6 = 27.2 kg ( ~ CoC Trainer )

6-6 = 30.5 kg

6-7 = 32.8 kg

7-7 = 35.4 kg

7-8 = 37.9 kg ( ~ CoC 1 )

8-8 = 40.3 kg

8-9 = 42.2 kg ( ~ CoC 1.5 )

9-9 = 45.6 kg

9-10= 47.0 kg

10-10 = 50.8 kg ( ~ CoC 2 )

Hard Spring

1-1 = 28.1 kg ( ~ CoC Trainer )

1-2 = 31.4 kg

2-2 = 34.8 kg

2-3 = 39.3 kg ( ~ Hard CoC 1 )

3-3 = 43.7 kg ( ~ CoC 1.5 )

3-4 = 47.6 kg

4-4 = 52.4 kg ( ~ Hard CoC 2 )

4-5 = 57.3 kg ( ~ CoC 2.5 )

5-5 = 62.1 kg

5-6 = 66.7 kg

6-6 = 72.8 kg ( ~ Hard CoC 3 )

6-7 = 76.7 kg

7-7 = 82.1 kg ( ~ CoC 3.5 )

7-8 = 88.1 kg

8-8 = 92.4 kg

8-9 = 97.2 kg ( ~ CoC 4 )

9-9 = 103.9 kg

9-10= 109.4 kg

10-10= 114.3 kg

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functionalpower

Not sure if anyone is still interested in information on the RBA, but I feel that the RGC #s are somewhat misleading (although technically correct!) as the crush is different from the torsion spring grippers' - the handles meet in a straight line which makes for a different 'feel' (i.e. you can technically move more lbs (like ~10 lbs based on the #s) on the RBA than compared to a TSG.

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For practical purpose I came up with and use these equivalencies (COC-scale rating):

3-4 ~IM#1.6

4-4 ~IM#1.9 (< medium COC#2, not like a hard #2)

4-5 ~IM#2.1/2.2 (a little harder than medium COC#2, not like #2.5)

5-5 ~IM#2.4 (a tad easier than my 2011 3" #2.5)

5-6 ~IM#2.6/2.7 (can't close that at the moment, a little harder then my #2.5, but not much)

6-6 ~IM#2.9/#3 (no idea, maybe (easy) #3 level, possibly no 'hard'#3 level though,

estimation based on the weight difference between lower notches)

Again, I'm not questioning the correctness of the RGC, only this ist how the levels fit in with the TSG-feel. Maybe this helps someone.

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db2000

How well does the gripper translate to a real gripper?

Say I spend a lot of time using the adjustable gripper doing RRBT and KTA and get up to a poundage of a coc3 would I be ready to certify on the 3? Or would I need to spend time retraining on the COC grippers?

Are they technically different?

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Wade Gillingham

The baraban is good for building strength. You still have to translate the strength to torsion spring grippers if you want to be good at TSG. Similar to training with a grip machine. Great for building strength but that strength has to be fine tuned for a TSG. The one thing I found when doing a lot of training with the Baraban Adjustable is it allowed me to grind out reps much harder than a TSG. This is because the force is completely linear with the Baraban Adjustable where the TSG loads up harder at the end because of the way the handles are forced together against the springs natural range of motion. Ever wonder why a torsion spring gripper always breaks at the same place? Take a look at the the spring has to move to get the handles to touch.

Wade

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functionalpower

I agree the RBA is great for building strength. I can now parallel close my harder #3 (uncalibrated) from my 18mm choker and I attribute that to the fact that using the RBA you always have that 90+ percent of your momentary max at your hands to train. You don't have to rep your #2.5, approaching your #3 but instead can find something like a 2.8 or 2.9 on the RBA that you can furthermore finetune by applying one ore more rubber bands on the top notches (in like IM0.1 increments if you want).

You can test the feel on how many rubber bands are needed to reach the the next LVL - its three for me with the ones I use, so I go like 5/6,+1,+2,6/6 in practical training progression.

And because I meantime always use my TSG COCs and RBs ALOT dont have to relearn their usage at all.

I feel you can very well get the MM-set (and MM0 cert power) down, training on your RBA exclusively -not sure about the CCS though, bec, if you open the TSG up it twists out of your hand, the RBA does not simulate that.

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Wade Gillingham

The Baraban Black Adjustable is back in stock.

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randomlychosenusername

This is my first post to this forum, and I've pasted in an entire spreadsheet, so here's crossing my fingers...

I've taken the data provided by Draught-Player and combined it to form a schedule for progressing with the two springs on the Baraban adjustable. Realistically, when you are using both springs at once, they have to be 3 notches apart to avoid interfering with each other. I figured out a (hopefully) realistic series of settings that follow this guideline, and allow you to progress in small steps without having to resort to rubber bands, etc. Let me know if this is useful.

Progression Schedule Increase Hard spring Weak spring setting kg setting kg Total kg % - 0 5-5 25.7 25.7 - 0 5-6 27.2 27.2 1.5 6% (CoC_Trainer) - 0 6-6 30.5 30.5 3.3 12% - 0 6-7 32.8 32.8 2.3 8% - 0 7-7 35.4 35.4 2.6 8% - 0 7-8 37.9 37.9 2.5 7% (CoC_1) - 0 8-8 40.3 40.3 2.4 6% - 0 8-9 42.2 42.2 1.9 5% (CoC_1.5) - 0 9-9 45.6 45.6 3.4 8% - 0 9-10 47.0 47.0 1.4 3% 1-1 28.1 4-4 21.9 50.0 3.0 6% 1-1 28.1 4-5 23.3 51.4 1.4 3% (CoC_2) 1-1 28.1 5-5 25.7 53.8 2.4 5% 1-1 28.1 5-6 27.2 55.3 1.5 3% 1-1 28.1 6-6 30.5 58.6 3.3 6% (CoC_2.5) 2-2 34.8 5-5 25.7 60.5 1.9 3% 2-2 34.8 5-6 27.2 62.0 1.5 2% 2-2 34.8 6-6 30.5 65.3 3.3 5% 2-2 34.8 6-7 32.8 67.6 2.3 4% 2-2 34.8 7-7 35.4 70.2 2.6 4% (CoC_3) 2-2 34.8 7-8 37.9 72.7 2.5 4% 3-3 43.7 6-6 30.5 74.2 1.5 2% 3-3 43.7 6-7 32.8 76.5 2.3 3% 3-3 43.7 7-7 35.4 79.1 2.6 3% 3-3 43.7 7-8 37.9 81.6 2.5 3% (CoC_3.5) 3-3 43.7 8-8 40.3 84.0 2.4 3% 3-3 43.7 8-9 42.2 85.9 1.9 2% 4-4 52.4 7-7 35.4 87.8 1.9 2% 4-4 52.4 7-8 37.9 90.3 2.5 3% 4-4 52.4 8-8 40.3 92.7 2.4 3% 4-4 52.4 8-9 42.2 94.6 1.9 2% 4-4 52.4 9-9 45.6 98.0 3.4 4% (CoC_4) 4-4 52.4 9-10 47.0 99.4 1.4 1% 4-4 52.4 10-10 50.8 103.2 3.8 4%

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randomlychosenusername

Sigh...spreadsheets don't work very well I see. Let me try a different method:

Progression Schedule

Hard spring Weak spring Increase

setting kg setting kg Total kg %

- 0 5-5 25.7 25.7

- 0 5-6 27.2 27.2 1.5 6% (CoC_Trainer)

- 0 6-6 30.5 30.5 3.3 12%

- 0 6-7 32.8 32.8 2.3 8%

- 0 7-7 35.4 35.4 2.6 8%

- 0 7-8 37.9 37.9 2.5 7% (CoC_1)

- 0 8-8 40.3 40.3 2.4 6%

- 0 8-9 42.2 42.2 1.9 5% (CoC_1.5)

- 0 9-9 45.6 45.6 3.4 8%

- 0 9-10 47.0 47.0 1.4 3%

1-1 28.1 4-4 21.9 50.0 3.0 6%

1-1 28.1 4-5 23.3 51.4 1.4 3% (CoC_2)

1-1 28.1 5-5 25.7 53.8 2.4 5%

1-1 28.1 5-6 27.2 55.3 1.5 3%

1-1 28.1 6-6 30.5 58.6 3.3 6% (CoC_2.5)

2-2 34.8 5-5 25.7 60.5 1.9 3%

2-2 34.8 5-6 27.2 62.0 1.5 2%

2-2 34.8 6-6 30.5 65.3 3.3 5%

2-2 34.8 6-7 32.8 67.6 2.3 4%

2-2 34.8 7-7 35.4 70.2 2.6 4% (CoC_3)

2-2 34.8 7-8 37.9 72.7 2.5 4%

3-3 43.7 6-6 30.5 74.2 1.5 2%

3-3 43.7 6-7 32.8 76.5 2.3 3%

3-3 43.7 7-7 35.4 79.1 2.6 3%

3-3 43.7 7-8 37.9 81.6 2.5 3% (CoC_3.5)

3-3 43.7 8-8 40.3 84.0 2.4 3%

3-3 43.7 8-9 42.2 85.9 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 7-7 35.4 87.8 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 7-8 37.9 90.3 2.5 3%

4-4 52.4 8-8 40.3 92.7 2.4 3%

4-4 52.4 8-9 42.2 94.6 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 9-9 45.6 98.0 3.4 4% (CoC_4)

4-4 52.4 9-10 47.0 99.4 1.4 1%

4-4 52.4 10-10 50.8 103.2 3.8 4%

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Sigh...spreadsheets don't work very well I see. Let me try a different method:

Progression Schedule

Hard spring Weak spring Increase

setting kg setting kg Total kg %

- 0 5-5 25.7 25.7

- 0 5-6 27.2 27.2 1.5 6% (CoC_Trainer)

- 0 6-6 30.5 30.5 3.3 12%

- 0 6-7 32.8 32.8 2.3 8%

- 0 7-7 35.4 35.4 2.6 8%

- 0 7-8 37.9 37.9 2.5 7% (CoC_1)

- 0 8-8 40.3 40.3 2.4 6%

- 0 8-9 42.2 42.2 1.9 5% (CoC_1.5)

- 0 9-9 45.6 45.6 3.4 8%

- 0 9-10 47.0 47.0 1.4 3%

1-1 28.1 4-4 21.9 50.0 3.0 6%

1-1 28.1 4-5 23.3 51.4 1.4 3% (CoC_2)

1-1 28.1 5-5 25.7 53.8 2.4 5%

1-1 28.1 5-6 27.2 55.3 1.5 3%

1-1 28.1 6-6 30.5 58.6 3.3 6% (CoC_2.5)

2-2 34.8 5-5 25.7 60.5 1.9 3%

2-2 34.8 5-6 27.2 62.0 1.5 2%

2-2 34.8 6-6 30.5 65.3 3.3 5%

2-2 34.8 6-7 32.8 67.6 2.3 4%

2-2 34.8 7-7 35.4 70.2 2.6 4% (CoC_3)

2-2 34.8 7-8 37.9 72.7 2.5 4%

3-3 43.7 6-6 30.5 74.2 1.5 2%

3-3 43.7 6-7 32.8 76.5 2.3 3%

3-3 43.7 7-7 35.4 79.1 2.6 3%

3-3 43.7 7-8 37.9 81.6 2.5 3% (CoC_3.5)

3-3 43.7 8-8 40.3 84.0 2.4 3%

3-3 43.7 8-9 42.2 85.9 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 7-7 35.4 87.8 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 7-8 37.9 90.3 2.5 3%

4-4 52.4 8-8 40.3 92.7 2.4 3%

4-4 52.4 8-9 42.2 94.6 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 9-9 45.6 98.0 3.4 4% (CoC_4)

4-4 52.4 9-10 47.0 99.4 1.4 1%

4-4 52.4 10-10 50.8 103.2 3.8 4%

This seems like some really useful information. I'm gonna try it out on my Baraban. Thanks a lot. Also, for those interested, there's a picture of this data in his gallery which makes it easier to read and save.

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Broly

Wow this is freakin great! I have the Deluxe model and have only been using the Hard spring, didn't even try using two for a smoother progression.

Question: When moving the spring up the notches from let's say a 1-1 to a 1-2, which side of the handle do you move the spring up?

Do you move the spring up on the handle side that goes into your palm?

Or do you move the spring up on the handle side of the fingers?

Or does it even matter?

Thanks.

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Gift2k1

I was wondering this too matrixsleeper. I know it matters on the V2 but because the Baraban is more symmetrical, I'm wondering if it makes a difference. I can't speak to your Deluxe model as I own the regular version.

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chilliman64

I don't think it matters as the scale that is available on GSS (presumably from Baraban himself) does not make any distinction

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randomlychosenusername

I'm no gripmaster, but I am a semi-competent engineer. My thought was to measure the distance between 1-2 and 2-1 when the spring is fully extended. If the distance is the same, the stretch on the spring is the same, therefore the tension would be the same. I did so with a variety of notch pairs and the distances were always the same (or darn close; there is always some manufacturing variation). So cast my vote with the others who say it's symmetrical and behaves the same on either side.

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ne!L

Sigh...spreadsheets don't work very well I see. Let me try a different method:

Progression Schedule

Hard spring Weak spring Increase

setting kg setting kg Total kg %

- 0 5-5 25.7 25.7

- 0 5-6 27.2 27.2 1.5 6% (CoC_Trainer)

- 0 6-6 30.5 30.5 3.3 12%

- 0 6-7 32.8 32.8 2.3 8%

- 0 7-7 35.4 35.4 2.6 8%

- 0 7-8 37.9 37.9 2.5 7% (CoC_1)

- 0 8-8 40.3 40.3 2.4 6%

- 0 8-9 42.2 42.2 1.9 5% (CoC_1.5)

- 0 9-9 45.6 45.6 3.4 8%

- 0 9-10 47.0 47.0 1.4 3%

1-1 28.1 4-4 21.9 50.0 3.0 6%

1-1 28.1 4-5 23.3 51.4 1.4 3% (CoC_2)

1-1 28.1 5-5 25.7 53.8 2.4 5%

1-1 28.1 5-6 27.2 55.3 1.5 3%

1-1 28.1 6-6 30.5 58.6 3.3 6% (CoC_2.5)

2-2 34.8 5-5 25.7 60.5 1.9 3%

2-2 34.8 5-6 27.2 62.0 1.5 2%

2-2 34.8 6-6 30.5 65.3 3.3 5%

2-2 34.8 6-7 32.8 67.6 2.3 4%

2-2 34.8 7-7 35.4 70.2 2.6 4% (CoC_3)

2-2 34.8 7-8 37.9 72.7 2.5 4%

3-3 43.7 6-6 30.5 74.2 1.5 2%

3-3 43.7 6-7 32.8 76.5 2.3 3%

3-3 43.7 7-7 35.4 79.1 2.6 3%

3-3 43.7 7-8 37.9 81.6 2.5 3% (CoC_3.5)

3-3 43.7 8-8 40.3 84.0 2.4 3%

3-3 43.7 8-9 42.2 85.9 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 7-7 35.4 87.8 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 7-8 37.9 90.3 2.5 3%

4-4 52.4 8-8 40.3 92.7 2.4 3%

4-4 52.4 8-9 42.2 94.6 1.9 2%

4-4 52.4 9-9 45.6 98.0 3.4 4% (CoC_4)

4-4 52.4 9-10 47.0 99.4 1.4 1%

4-4 52.4 10-10 50.8 103.2 3.8 4%

Can you make this calculation in picture or Excel format and share here :) Sorry for my english

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Joey_grips

I have a video review of the RB Adjustable (deluxe) on my YouTube channel (chopzmasta07).

Check it out, it's an awesome gripper, it's my favourite in my collection.

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