dunebuggy31 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I've been doing "strict" standing presses with a dumbbell for about 4 weeks, and the results are remarkable. Literally feel like the shoulder is cohesively stronger, with carryover of +25lb onto my barbell MP. Anyone else use this a strength builder or a supplementary exercise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Gillingham Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I've been doing "strict" standing presses with a dumbbell for about 4 weeks, and the results are remarkable. Literally feel like the shoulder is cohesively stronger, with carryover of +25lb onto my barbell MP. Anyone else use this a strength builder or a supplementary exercise? One of the best movements I have done for overall upper body strength. Started with barely being able to do 70 because of the lack of stability - now I do 120. I will say that nearly every workout I feel like I may have tweaked my shoulder but they come back stronger every time. I usually do 3 sets of 8-10 trying for a new max every week. Once I hit 10 reps I go up in weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I was told by some Masters Strongman competitors that it was the single best overhead exercise they had ever done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Gillingham Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I was told by some Masters Strongman competitors that it was the single best overhead exercise they had ever done. I got it from my brother who was told by Hugo Girard that it is one of his main exercises. It just took me a few years to put it into the program. He does them two at a time but my heavy dumbells aren't in pairs, and he also does high reps with a 50 pound medicine ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunebuggy31 Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) I've been doing "strict" standing presses with a dumbbell for about 4 weeks, and the results are remarkable. Literally feel like the shoulder is cohesively stronger, with carryover of +25lb onto my barbell MP. Anyone else use this a strength builder or a supplementary exercise? One of the best movements I have done for overall upper body strength. Started with barely being able to do 70 because of the lack of stability - now I do 120. I will say that nearly every workout I feel like I may have tweaked my shoulder but they come back stronger every time. I usually do 3 sets of 8-10 trying for a new max every week. Once I hit 10 reps I go up in weight. I'm trying to increase the weight once I can hit a 5x5. But ya, feel like the shoulder's tweaked after every workout but then always come back stronger. Currently at that plateau where a 5lb jump is too much, so starting to go up in 1lb increments. Seems good so far. Edited October 25, 2008 by dunebuggy31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Gillingham Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I've been doing "strict" standing presses with a dumbbell for about 4 weeks, and the results are remarkable. Literally feel like the shoulder is cohesively stronger, with carryover of +25lb onto my barbell MP. Anyone else use this a strength builder or a supplementary exercise? One of the best movements I have done for overall upper body strength. Started with barely being able to do 70 because of the lack of stability - now I do 120. I will say that nearly every workout I feel like I may have tweaked my shoulder but they come back stronger every time. I usually do 3 sets of 8-10 trying for a new max every week. Once I hit 10 reps I go up in weight. I'm trying to increase the weight once I can hit a 5x5. But ya, feel like the shoulder's tweaked after every workout but then always come back stronger. Currently at that plateau where a 5lb jump is too much, so starting to go up in 1lb increments. Seems good so far. You might want to try higher reps. The nice thing for me about shooting for 10 is when I go up the next week I drop the intensity and will settle for 3-5 reps at my top weight then try to push up to 10 over the next 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Brouse Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Are we talking single arm or two? I like them both, meselfs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunebuggy31 Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 I've been doing "strict" standing presses with a dumbbell for about 4 weeks, and the results are remarkable. Literally feel like the shoulder is cohesively stronger, with carryover of +25lb onto my barbell MP. Anyone else use this a strength builder or a supplementary exercise? One of the best movements I have done for overall upper body strength. Started with barely being able to do 70 because of the lack of stability - now I do 120. I will say that nearly every workout I feel like I may have tweaked my shoulder but they come back stronger every time. I usually do 3 sets of 8-10 trying for a new max every week. Once I hit 10 reps I go up in weight. I'm trying to increase the weight once I can hit a 5x5. But ya, feel like the shoulder's tweaked after every workout but then always come back stronger. Currently at that plateau where a 5lb jump is too much, so starting to go up in 1lb increments. Seems good so far. You might want to try higher reps. The nice thing for me about shooting for 10 is when I go up the next week I drop the intensity and will settle for 3-5 reps at my top weight then try to push up to 10 over the next 2 months. Sound logic. I'll try that starting next week. Are we talking single arm or two? I like them both, meselfs. Single arm, but thats cuz I only have one dumbbell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobs86 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I did some today, I have definitely seen some carryover to other lifts - builds shoulder strength/stability, core, leg and hand/wrist strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlifterfromberlin Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 My favorite overhead pressing movement! Works the midsection well, too, especially the sides. PB: 4x44kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunebuggy31 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) My favorite overhead pressing movement! Works the midsection well, too, especially the sides. PB: 4x44kg Ya, it really does hit the sides well. My personal goal is to press 100lb see-saw style, but I'm probably gonna puke a lung getting there. Edited November 15, 2008 by dunebuggy31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twig Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I got it from my brother who was told by Hugo Girard that it is one of his main exercises.Yeah, but what does Hugo know anbout shoulder strength??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizen Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I find single arm push press really easy but strict is hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogba Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I train shoulders only seated (with free weight) on a "shoulder bench", and both barbell and dumbbell. Should I begin to train shoulders while standing? Why do you prefer the one or the other? What are the advantages? I also like a bit variety and I do front and behind the neck presses. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mathison Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I train shoulders only seated (with free weight) on a "shoulder bench", and both barbell and dumbbell. Should I begin to train shoulders while standing? Why do you prefer the one or the other? What are the advantages? I also like a bit variety and I do front and behind the neck presses. Thanks I prefer standing and have only recently started to do seated strict pressing overhead. Do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Brouse Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I train shoulders only seated (with free weight) on a "shoulder bench", and both barbell and dumbbell. Should I begin to train shoulders while standing? Why do you prefer the one or the other? What are the advantages? I also like a bit variety and I do front and behind the neck presses. Thanks I prefer standing and have only recently started to do seated strict pressing overhead. Do both. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I like doing them standing, but I end up having to do them kneeling, cuz the ceilings in the basement are too low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mathison Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I like doing them standing, but I end up having to do them kneeling, cuz the ceilings in the basement are too low wow.. hows that on the old knee caps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealonzo Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I love doing them standing, its the best thing to replicate handstand pushups, which everyone here should also be doing. Great overall strength builder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I like doing them standing, but I end up having to do them kneeling, cuz the ceilings in the basement are too low wow.. hows that on the old knee caps? Actually, I don't really feel them...for now, hehe Well actually, I do db presses seated, and only do barbell presses kneeling (have to cuz of my setup). Yeah, it's alot of fun cleaning a loaded bar while your kneeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxyj75 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I do these with my 48k kettlebell, and I love em'! I usually alternate arms(cleaning it to the shoulder beforehand) for a set of 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeagle4-temp1@yahoo.com Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) I've been doing "strict" standing presses with a dumbbell for about 4 weeks, and the results are remarkable. Literally feel like the shoulder is cohesively stronger, with carryover of +25lb onto my barbell MP. Anyone else use this a strength builder or a supplementary exercise? One of the best movements I have done for overall upper body strength. Started with barely being able to do 70 because of the lack of stability - now I do 120. I will say that nearly every workout I feel like I may have tweaked my shoulder but they come back stronger every time. I usually do 3 sets of 8-10 trying for a new max every week. Once I hit 10 reps I go up in weight. /agree with wade completely. BUT this was back when i was swimming with a couple teams, and before the end of the school i found that the "tweaks" to my shoulder really f'ed up my stroke and i finished my pool time in some serious discomfort. i do them sitting down now, eh, who knows whether its more bad than good? Edited January 29, 2009 by acid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Whats the best depth to go on these without messing up your shoulders? Arms parallel to the ground? Or deeper like a standing military press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogba Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) I finish the movement slightly below my jaw or so and as strict I can(as deep as my hands can go). I never had issues with the full movement working the shoulders. If I want to go as heavy as I can and go for a 1-2 reps, I might finish it at my jaw/mouth :lol: Thanks for the advice, guys. I appreciate it. I'll also incorporate standing shoulder training in my routine. Edited January 29, 2009 by kogba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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