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Here's what I just did today (See signature for video)

Here's my big set left-handed:

75-pounds, 3"+ handle, concentration curl for 19 reps -- left handed

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2dvr4pk

Here's the final set right-handed:

75-pounds, 3"+ handle, concentration curl for 19 reps

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2lszek9

Three factors affected me: (1) light dinner the night before (two yogurts and an Ensure - should have had a Pizza or a triple burger), (2) doing heavy left before heavy right, (3) the plates: I work in pounds and the did not have access to 25's, so instead had to rely on two tens and a five on each side. The collars and over five pounds each and the bar is just under 15.

This is critical because with 25's, you can get the collars extremely tight so the weights don't move around. When the weights move around, it totally kills your momentum, as what happens when you have three plates instead of one one each side.

I tried to pick up one of these yesterday:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id...p;type=category

Ideally, something like this:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?sk...d=1161733271637

... but the technology is new and not in stores yet. This would be most convenient: as it can be taken to the gym and filmed by just about anyone there.

The goal is to do 50 in set and 200 in a total workout before upping the weight. Then it will be 65 + 90 pounds lifting chains for low reps, high sets.

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nice set of curls :mosher keep up the good work next time use a spot light to video with so we can see better . dont feel bad iv'e did dark vids too. outside is best

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Thats nice man......

When are you gonna start lifting for armwrestling again or are you done with that?

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Thats nice man......

When are you gonna start lifting for armwrestling again or are you done with that?

Just noticed the left handed ones looked more like they were meant for armwrestling than the right handed movements did....

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keep up the good work next time use a spot light to video with so we can see better . dont feel bad iv'e did dark vids too. outside is best

Thanks. I was a little worried about that, but next time around I plan on delivering a slightly more polished product: gym setting, good lighting, better camera and fewer distractions. My gym has a small ab room in back that can be used for this.

I’m not ready to go past warm up weight right now, but when I eventually start doing the heavier stuff, I might keep the gym scale nearby as well: so while the camera is still rolling and the set is done, we can roll the DB to the scale and weigh it.

When are you gonna start lifting for armwrestling again or are you done with that?

I am done with arm wrestling for now, as I want to take this as far as I can take it. When I start to hit some of my goals here, I might get back into arm wrestling and (hopefully) be somewhat better.

Here are some other sets as well (all 75 pounds here as that is the only weight I use now):

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2n6dpoj

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=3zvgplf

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4977a1l

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=3yze2rp

My form on the left arm might look slightly more akin to arm wrestling, but that’s not the intent; it’s just that my coordination is a little off.

I only competed lefty twice and really didn’t do that well; I’d like to eventually be competitive with both arms.

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Yeah.....cause just a few adjustments in the form of those lifts and you have an exercise designed for armwrestling.

Looking good man......more to come I hope!!! :rock

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This has nothing to do with curling, but I just bought a new camera and am testing it out here. This is some light weight for high reps at the end of a chest work-out:

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2djut1v

I'll see if I can sneak some more thick bar curls in by the end of the week or early next week.

This time around, I expect the lighting, clarity and overall quality to be much better (and hopefully we'll be a little stronger too).

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real clear the new cameras are great . looks like night vision my boy has one

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Bar - just under 11" around:

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4z3ylwg

Weighs - just under 95-pounds:

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=6aflap3

My goal is to get "just under" 125-pounds for sets of five to eight in a few months. With a normal handle, that is no problem but the thickness of the handle makes this very tough.

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Hmmmm, form's more than a little loose! :erm ...and ROM seems to very constricted! :erm Are you trying to work a sticking point? :erm

What weight can you handle for a proper concentration curl? :erm:)

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Range of motion is definitely far from complete, but maybe he's training for arm wrestling again?

At least now Garret takes clear videos and measures the stuff he claims, props to him for that. If he does this with every feat he claims, I don't mind watching them! =) Good work anyways, don't forget to show us when you get stronger!!!

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Hmmmm, form's more than a little loose! :erm ...and ROM seems to very constricted! :erm Are you trying to work a sticking point? :erm

What weight can you handle for a proper concentration curl? :erm:)

This is only the second time using that weight with that super thick handle and I had a little trouble controlling the weight for that set. I had like three of four other sets with that weight with much better ROM. My buddy couldn't make it up to film everything so I had to rely on the guy from behind the counter - if would not have been proper for me to ask to film everything.

The most I ever concentration curled full ROM was 145 x 1 and this was with a thin handle. This took place in 1998 in Golds Gym in West Springfield, MA. I believe the dumbbell is still there to this day. It says “140” pounds but it has 140 pounds of plates on it and I estimate the bar at five pounds. I think I may have used a strap (not sure) but I did it without even warming up (not a good idea generally). I weighed 240 at the time. I am 270 today.

When you get to that kind of weight, it kind of pulls your body around so it’s difficult – if not impossible – to do the “proper”, politically correct, textbook form of concentration curl. Also, I am not a bodybuilder looking to build biceps but looking to build side pressure instead.

I don't know what I can do today as I only do it with a thick bar - but hopefully a lot more in the coming months ...

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When you get to that kind of weight, it kind of pulls your body around so it’s difficult – if not impossible – to do the “proper”, politically correct, textbook form of concentration curl. Also, I am not a bodybuilder looking to build biceps but looking to build side pressure instead.

Perhaps you should call them "Side Pressure Isos, with Body English" then! :rolleyes

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I thought it was great vid G-man! Non-armwrestlers just don't understand the ROM and body english thing so don't worry about it. You looked to be man-handling the weight and several of the reps were below 90 degrees which is even tougher. Good stuff, keep em' coming!

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Yeah, not really a "concentration" curl but who needs those anyway. Pretty good stuff, cool dumbell and plates.

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I thought it was great vid G-man! Non-armwrestlers just don't understand the ROM and body english thing so don't worry about it. You looked to be man-handling the weight and several of the reps were below 90 degrees which is even tougher.

Thanks - I've got 120-pounds of lifting chains and they may be good for training as well as video clips and I may include those in the future. While it sounds like a lot, at most, it only adds about 60-pounds to the top part of the movement and much less at the start of the movement - might look cool on YouTube if I can get some cool music blaring in the background.

Here's a comparison of some of the thick bar tools I train with:

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4zirckl

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Thanks for posting the vids, Garret. Good stuff!

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When I do concentration curl for armwrestling I actually have less range than what you see in the G-man video. I lean down even lower and use body English even more. My elbow may extended beyond 90 degree a bit to 110 the most, then go back up along with my body. Basicly I rock up and down with my body while my hand actually curls only about 6". The rest of the motion is from body english. If the forearm go above parallel 10-15 degree I rock back down while locking up the whole body. Up phase I also rotate (pronate) my forearm a bit.

G-man it's good power there bro. You may also try lower reps with higher poundage. a hit from a heavy weight pro armwreslter is a lot more than 75lbs. How about static hold for a lot more weight? I read at another board that Artem Kilemenko from Russia (spelling?) can hold 245lbs for 21 seconds. That's why he's a world champ. Keep up the hard work bro.

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When I do concentration curl for armwrestling I actually have less range than what you see in the G-man video. I lean down even lower and use body English even more. My elbow may extended beyond 90 degree a bit to 110 the most, then go back up along with my body. Basicly I rock up and down with my body while my hand actually curls only about 6". The rest of the motion is from body english. If the forearm go above parallel 10-15 degree I rock back down while locking up the whole body. Up phase I also rotate (pronate) my forearm a bit.

G-man it's good power there bro. You may also try lower reps with higher poundage. a hit from a heavy weight pro armwreslter is a lot more than 75lbs. How about static hold for a lot more weight? I read at another board that Artem Kilemenko from Russia (spelling?) can hold 245lbs for 21 seconds. That's why he's a world champ. Keep up the hard work bro.

I think he knows what the pro AW'ers hit like! He's pulled many of the big names like Bagent and Brzenk, heh. I read that about Artem too, impressive stuff!!!

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What portion of the movement is Artem holding on (90 degrees)?

If so is his tricep at a 45 degree angle or straight up and down?

Thanks in advance

Josh

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http://www.armsport.spb.ru/photo/m6.jpg

or

http://www.obukhov-sport.ru/userfiles/Imagearmb4.jpg

or

http://armpower.net/images/trening_upload/20040518103706.jpg

85-90 degres, (more or less armwrestling start position)

Voevoda can hold 235 or 237 kg in 3 sec one hand

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http://www.armsport.spb.ru/photo/m6.jpg

or:

http://www.armsport.spb.ru/photo/f6.jpg

or:

http://www.armsport.spb.ru/photo/f4.jpg

-all depends from style (technique) fight

many people fight in hook, but every executes hook differently, for example:

http://www.armsport.spb.ru/photo/f7.jpg or http://www.armsport.spb.ru/photo/f8.jpg

method training it depends therefrom how we fight

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For example:

John Brzenk hook: http://www.armpower.net/main/armpower/32/32.pdf

and

A.Voevoda hook: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=1

and

Ibragim Ibragimow hook: http://armpower.net/index.php?page=arm_pokaz_styl&nr=2

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