Jump to content

Strongest Grip In History


Recommended Posts

But you need good muscle endurance if you are going to have the strongest grip on the planet!

As for the 25's yes, I agree, that is really not that impressive! I think thick, massive, forearms that people think "fat" every time they see'm is bad, and if I have to have those to have a grip like I want... then I will forget grip! And the only thing I know to keep "excessive" mass off of me is to do reps, so that is why I agree with the reps statement! Anyway, again just my opinion though,

Mr. Gripster

Huh? :blink Without even addressing the reps/mass issue, big forearms don't mean big grip and if looks are such a concern why bother with grip; which is focused on strength not looks?

i would say its the other way around as far as reps an mass go but yeh i dont really understand that, it doesnt matter what you look like aslong as you have the strength / having bigger forearms will do more to increase your strength than decrease it - more strength = :D

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 96
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • viper

    12

  • mobsterone

    11

  • Alawadhi

    8

  • Mikael Siversson

    7

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Exactly. That doesn't mean anything if the two guys are much stronger than the other competitors. I'm stronger in benchpressing and grippers than my girlfriend. Is there a correlation? But I ha

I'm gonna say Strongest Grips in History, I have alot of favorites here :D ...David Horne(setting the standards currently in Pinch winning tons of competitions), Big Steve(watching his movie gallery hand and wrist strength amazing even closed #4), John Brookfield(the guy never stops improving and has to be one of the best benders ever, tremendous overall strength one of the best) and Steve G. (Rolling Thunder off the charts and weaver stick record I believe) and last guys with potential to be like David Morton(loves to eat ice cream and crush monster :blink if he just slammed grippers, pinch, etc. day and night he could be in this category hands down :laugh ....all the guys on this board alone are super strong but these are the guys in my head at the moment that stand out and are strong :bow:bow:bow

Edited by BigT
Link to post
Share on other sites
I'm gonna say Strongest Grips in History, I have alot of favorites here :D ...David Horne(setting the standards currently in Pinch winning tons of competitions), Big Steve(watching his movie gallery hand and wrist strength amazing even closed #4), John Brookfield(the guy never stops improving and has to be one of the best benders ever, tremendous overall strength one of the best) and Steve G. (Rolling Thunder off the charts and weaver stick record I believe) and last guys with potential to be like David Morton(loves to eat ice cream and crush monster :blink if he just slammed grippers, pinch, etc. day and night he could be in this category hands down :laugh ....all the guys on this board alone are super strong but these are the guys in my head at the moment that stand out and are strong :bow:bow:bow

Just started thinking for other strongest grips in history Tommy H. (all around powerhouse) and for other potentials Big Clay(if he ever dropped strongman and focussed on grip only he could do anything he set his sights on) and last but not least Shane Larson and Jad! Okay I'm done now :laugh

Link to post
Share on other sites
Mikael Siversson

BigT,

Nick McKinless would beat all of those you mentioned (a couple of them would not even be close to Nick), possibly with the exception of David Horne, in an allround grip competition.

Nick is possibly the most underrated grip guy on the GB. He beat big Steve and was very close at beating David Horne as well.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think there are a few who havent competed yet that could do very well against some of the other top performers to date. There are a couple of monsters in the northwest. ;)

Link to post
Share on other sites
mobsterone
I'm gonna say Strongest Grips in History, I have alot of favorites here :D ...David Horne(setting the standards currently in Pinch winning tons of competitions), Big Steve(watching his movie gallery hand and wrist strength amazing even closed #4), John Brookfield(the guy never stops improving and has to be one of the best benders ever, tremendous overall strength one of the best) and Steve G. (Rolling Thunder off the charts and weaver stick record I believe) and last guys with potential to be like David Morton(loves to eat ice cream and crush monster :blink if he just slammed grippers, pinch, etc. day and night he could be in this category hands down :laugh ....all the guys on this board alone are super strong but these are the guys in my head at the moment that stand out and are strong :bow:bow:bow

Thank you for including me.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Jose Jara

David Horne's the best grip of all-time.

I think not only the strongest grip, but the best writer in the subject. The past year i purchased back issues of his excellent Iron Grip Magazine and i love it.

I hope that one day he will write one book like encyclopedia of grip or similar, bestseller for sure!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Bob Lipinski

Here is me with my "old reliable", but for those who know Don Larkin he is up there. 2 45's and 3 25's pinch with under 7" hands isn't bad.

David definitely is way up there though.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Sybersnott

Let me throw up some names of some guys that ALL of you have forgotten about (in no particular order, this will certainly warm the hearts of people like Joe Roark)...

Louis Apollon Uni

Charles Vansittart

John Grun Marx

Thomas Topham

Siegmund Breitbart

Dennis Rogers

George F. Jowett

Louis Cyr

Edward Aston

Arthur Saxon

Charles Rigoulot

Thomas Inch

Siegmund Klein

Alexander Zass

Obviously, I've left out a LOT of names --- anyhow, these gentlemen come to mind when it comes to grip strength and most of them overall strength.

The guy at the top of the list deserves special recognition IMHO, as I consider him to be the "Godfather Of Grip" and most of you will agree with me on that note. :)

Link to post
Share on other sites

after seeing the worlds strongest arms dvd, i definately think magnus samuelsson is up there with the best of all time - his 4 closes looked to be pretty easy for him, he did another about 20 seconds after the first, and this was a new #4, straight out the pack - plus he does it with only 3 fingers

and then he beat the world record on the rolling thunder 3 times, ending up with 286lbs - impressed me

Link to post
Share on other sites
Wannagrip

Just a heads up. Next guy that tries to RUIN a good thread with putting garbage like Chuck Norris will incur consequences associated with such posting.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just a heads up. Next guy that tries to RUIN a good thread with putting garbage like Chuck Norris will incur consequences associated with such posting.

thank you!

back to the original post, magnus has great grip strength but i'm a little hesitant of putting him up there with the greats. i suppose it's because he's not real well known for anything else than certifying on the #4 and pulling some big numbers on the rolling thunder. he's immensely strong but not as much an overall grip athlete like some of the others. of course his main concern is overall bodily strength for the strongman contests and for that he trains his grip.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Tom of Iowa2

I give big props to the grip competitors and they DO dominate the grip 'events'(although Samuelson hasn't gone heads up with them).Seriously in awe of what a FEW of these grip guys can do. BUT I have to think the strongest grip in History belongs to Samuelson or one of the other top PRO strongmen.Murumets is supposed to have a heck of a grip too.Probably half a dozen..or more..'great' grips in strongman...if A guy like Samuelson close the #4(that's the FOUR) with 3 fingers...and does it with just a 'little'specialization training thats gotta show you someting.The hand strength IS there just not focused on the 'events'..Just logical thinking.IMHO

Edited by Tom of Iowa2
Link to post
Share on other sites
I give big props to the grip competitors and they DO dominate the grip 'events'(although Samuelson hasn't gone heads up with them).Seriously in awe of what a FEW of these grip guys can do. BUT I have to think the strongest grip in History belongs to Samuelson or one of the other top PRO strongmen.Murumets is supposed to have a heck of a grip too.Probably half a dozen..or more..'great' grips in strongman...if A guy like Samuelson close the #4(that's the FOUR) with 3 fingers...and does it with just a 'little'specialization training thats gotta show you someting.The hand strength IS there just not focused on the 'events'..Just logical thinking.IMHO

thats a big reason why its so impressive, hes been training grip all his life from working on the farm im sure, but yeh, the guy trains his whole body as hard as he does his grip - hes benching 600lbs raw, pressing 400+ above his head raw, ive seen him pull 350kgs, probably the most impressive stone lifter of all time, and i definately think he has the strongest arms in history

an then hes closing the #4 straight out the pack twice in 30 seconds/holding it shut for a while each time, with only 3 fingers! plus he destroys the rolling thunder record (3 times) - an the phone book he torn in wsa dvd - it took him about 2 seconds/looked like he could have torn 2 of em together - the mans a freak of nature (in a good way)

Link to post
Share on other sites
Alawadhi

I saw Clay on a video clip tearing a phone book in less than a second. now that IS AMAZING!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Mikael Siversson

I was told by a reliable source that the RT handle Magnus used was far from new. HAving said that I have also been told that Magnus excelled on a different rotating thick bar handle demonstrating a very high level of thick bar strength. The strongest grip in the world is better tested in an allround grip competition (preferably with a doping test if including pro strongmen as some are probably clean whereas some are probably not). Magnus Samuelsson may not have a world class pinch grip for example or an outstanding vbar lift etc. I have not heard of any phenomenal pinch lifts by him and I am relatively well informed about this. Magnus could be up there but it is a huge difference between discussing well documented allround grip guys like David Horne and speculating about the allround grip strength of top strongmen who have excelled in one or two events as far as we know. We have invited Magnus to compete in the LGC but he declined (probably because of the lack of prize money as strength competitions is perhaps his main source of income) I am 43 and weigh 180 lbs and I would beat almost all top Swedish strongmen in an allround grip competition and that's a fact. You need to specialize to beat guys like David Horne.

I give big props to the grip competitors and they DO dominate the grip 'events'(although Samuelson hasn't gone heads up with them).Seriously in awe of what a FEW of these grip guys can do. BUT I have to think the strongest grip in History belongs to Samuelson or one of the other top PRO strongmen.Murumets is supposed to have a heck of a grip too.Probably half a dozen..or more..'great' grips in strongman...if A guy like Samuelson close the #4(that's the FOUR) with 3 fingers...and does it with just a 'little'specialization training thats gotta show you someting.The hand strength IS there just not focused on the 'events'..Just logical thinking.IMHO

thats a big reason why its so impressive, hes been training grip all his life from working on the farm im sure, but yeh, the guy trains his whole body as hard as he does his grip - hes benching 600lbs raw, pressing 400+ above his head raw, ive seen him pull 350kgs, probably the most impressive stone lifter of all time, and i definately think he has the strongest arms in history

an then hes closing the #4 straight out the pack twice in 30 seconds/holding it shut for a while each time, with only 3 fingers! plus he destroys the rolling thunder record (3 times) - an the phone book he torn in wsa dvd - it took him about 2 seconds/looked like he could have torn 2 of em together - the mans a freak of nature (in a good way)

Edited by Mikael Siversson
Link to post
Share on other sites
Mikael Siversson

Closing a #4 is a relatively poor indicator of allround grip strength. The best allround grip guys do, without exception, have sub-world class gripper strength. All #4 closers on the GB would be defeated by David Horne in a well balanced allround grip competition. Like several of the best allround grip guys, David is not a top gripper guy.

...if A guy like Samuelson close the #4(that's the FOUR) with 3 fingers...and does it with just a 'little'specialization training thats gotta show you someting.The hand strength IS there just not focused on the 'events'..Just logical thinking.IMHO
Edited by Mikael Siversson
Link to post
Share on other sites
Mikael Siversson
...if A guy like Samuelson close the #4(that's the FOUR) with 3 fingers...and does it with just a 'little'specialization training thats gotta show you someting.The hand strength IS there just not focused on the 'events'..Just logical thinking.IMHO

More like uninformed thinking.

Magnus has trained with grippers for years.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd put my money on David Horne over Magnus S. in an all around grip competition every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Magnus has a monster crush but what else? RT or thickbar aren't a very good measure of handstrength for people with hands so large they can't even fit all 4 fingers on a gripper. I'd guess there are at least 10 people on the board that could take Magnus in an all around grip competition, assuming mostly standard events. Now if he trained grip it might be another story, but claiming someone has the strongest grip in history based off of speculation of what he might do if he trained is a little far fetched IMO.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Florian Kellersmann

I don't think that the best gripster on the "standard event" has automaticly the strongest grip. V-bar for example hasn't much to do with grip strength in my opinion. Other disciplines are very technical.

If I would beat guys like Cleve Dean in a grip competition, I wouldn't think that I would have a stronger grip than them. I would be just more familiar with the events.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Florian Kellersmann

I think David Horne has probably the strongest grip for his handsize under 8 Inches. David is not only strong in the grip comp events, but also in events that favourite hand size like thickbar. David has simply no weaknesses. Also Ron Mazza comes to mind after seeing what he's doing with the Inch DB with his relative small hands. Mr. Heslep of course is in the top field of the small handed guys too.

With big hands, Wade G. impresses me. Hard to tell if he's stronger than David Horne or something else (and I don't want to discuss this), but he's unreal in pinch and very strong in Fatbar (he walked with the Inch on his first touch I guess) and strong at grippers.

IMO Chad Woodall is the big handed gripster of the future by the way :bow Watch out :rock Chad can break word records in all events: Grippers, Pinch, V-bar, Fatbar. Give him some time...

But we shouldn't ignore names that aren't on the gripboard in this discussion. What about Joe Kinney (his video is so extreme, that many people think it's fake) and Nathan Holle (the 21 year old boy that certified on the #4 and did all the other classics like Blob and Inch)? I have heard some impressive stuff from Craig Holle too (20kg plate curl, 2x20 kg plate pinch each hand, ca. 100kg on new RB Dyno, GE Close, Blob and Inch etc...).

Just a few thoughts...

Flo

Link to post
Share on other sites
Mikael Siversson
V-bar for example hasn't much to do with grip strength in my opinion.

Is that why you do not place on the top 50 list? People have inferred that thick bar vbar lifting (eg. 2'') is much more strength related than vbar lifting with a 1'' bar. Well guess what, at the Oz championship Nick and I dominated the 1'' vbar. After the comp. we tried a 2'' implement. Believe it or not but it was the very same guys that dominated the 1'' vbar that also dominated the 2'' vbar.

I don't think you are the right person to evaluate the strength component in vbar lifting Florian. All the top guys on the top 50 list in vbar lifting are plain strong overall in the grip.

Your strength is not overwhelming in vertical bar lifting. Take it as a man.

Link to post
Share on other sites
mobsterone
I don't think that the best gripster on the "standard event" has automaticly the strongest grip. V-bar for example hasn't much to do with grip strength in my opinion. Other disciplines are very technical.

If I would beat guys like Cleve Dean in a grip competition, I wouldn't think that I would have a stronger grip than them. I would be just more familiar with the events.

Not neccesarily so on two counts. Firstly he was damned good at arm wrestling which makes him a arm wrestling specialist much as Magnus is a strongman. You and I have both beaten strongmen who could have trained at grip but did not. I would prefer that the discussion stays within those who have either competed or who have good all-round and recorded as such grip strength lifts. Hence we can say Magnus is good but not great. He did not, as I do not, use a new RT handle to lift WR level weights. On my old handle I have done as much as 286lbs but am no where near the current WR on a new handle. I'm good but not that goods - same applies to him.

The second count is disparaging a lift you aren't rated on. On grippers you among the best in Germany and ditto you place very well when Arm Wrestling but in competition you were well behind me. Ergo I have the better all round grip but am not quite your equal on grippers or Arm Wrestling. Most who do V-bar do not hook their fingers - I certianly do not and if it's not about grip then how come I have to use my hands? Perhaps I'd be better if I lifted the bar with the crook of my elbow? All of the guys who are currently placing in the top three of events across the world are doing well in a number of events INCLUDING but not limted to the V-bar. I'd hazard a guess that it is rare indeed if any from that group does less than 300lbs - maybe The Swiss is one.

Bring your game up a notch and show us what can be done.

So I would prefer to see lifters that have done a recognised feat of grip strength (some of the names Syber listed have done a few) and more so those with more than 1 or 2 lifts that we know well to their name. Joe Kinney, for example, wouldn't be included. He is a man amongst men on grippers and wrist rollers or even grip machines but wouldn't do so well on Pinch or levering. Is he good - yes - does he have the best grip of all time? No.

The idea of people who 'might' be good at grip even being considered is a joke right? I might have the highest IQ of all time but have never had it tested so does that mean I should be considered Einsteins equal? Of course not. Hence no more 'maybes' or 'could bes' please.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Mikael Siversson

True Mobster,

As vbar is one of the standard grip events I take critisism serious IF it is beyond doubt that there is no hidden agenda.

First thing I do (regardless of it concerns gripper, vbar or two hand pinch) is looking at the top 50 lists. I know Florian has competed in the Euros so he would be on the vbar list if he was strong enough. Sure enough, not the slightest trace of Florian on the top 50 list. Therefore I do not take the critisism very seriously. I would definitely reconsider having vbar as a standard event if Jim Wylie, Nick McKinless, Dave Thorton, David Horne, Steve Gardener, Jedd Johnson etc. thought that it was unsuitable as a test of strength.

Just look at those names. Do they look like a random sample of gripsters (assuming that there is little strength involved in vbar lifting)?

I absolutely suck at the one hand deadlift but think that it is an excellent test of grip strength in a well balanced allround grip competition.

Edited by Mikael Siversson
Link to post
Share on other sites
mobsterone

Using a hook grip I managed a 180-kilo one hand deadlift (right handed) today - I'm like a proud dad. :cool

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy policies.