Number Ten Ox Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I know I'll probably never get 400, but now I have reason to hope for 350 one day. Cool. Well not with THAT attitude! Nice lifts and PR's and I like your Right....Left format. May have to steal that like I have stolen everything else from you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Lookin' good, Ben!Well, I just had the best v-bar workout of my whole entire lifetime! But really, it's so nice to make a big jump in weight after maintaining, or even losing strength, for months on end in this event. 2-12-2006 Right...................Left 213x1.................213x1 258x1.................258x1 310.5x1 (PR).......300.5x1 (PR) 320.5x1 (PR).......308 miss 328 miss.............300.5x1 I know I'll probably never get 400, but now I have reason to hope for 350 one day. Cool. GREAT lifts Eric! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Thanks, guys! I really think this thread is helping my v-bar lifting. Hopefully everyone will have the same experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Would anyone mind sharing their hand placement? I'm still undecided as to whether I can pull more placing the bar directly in my palm or just above my palm callouses where my fingers meet my palm? I try to watch videos of it but they're arent many that show it clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I press my thumb webbing into the bar as tightly as possible. I guess this would mean I lift it more with my palm, if I understand your question correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Once you get used to the pain it's, in my experience, not a huge difference where you place it. When I rep it I just grab it from above with no 'setting' to speak of and I am just as strong. It is a good idea to get used to several bar positions in the hand. If you rip your skin you can then place the bar further up or down in the palm and continue your workout or competition lifts. The skin is however usually thicker in the palm than it is at the base of the fingers so it is typically less painful to place it in the palm. Above all, stay away from max lifts in training. You don't need to go all out in order to get stronger. Better to do several singles at 90 per cent than one or two at 100 per cent and rip your skin. If you loose skin, make sure it is on the final, all out lift in a competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 2-18-2006 Left.....................Right 213x1...............213x1 213x1...............213x3 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 I tried to incorporate a little more volume today, but it seems my hands really can't take it. The weight being lifted doesn't seem to be much of a factor. After about 7 sets, or so, I feel as if anything else would be risking a skin tear. I guess I could go all the way down to 200 pounds, but I doubt that would be all that the effective. Oh well, the workout felt good, and all the lifts were powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 2-18-2006Left.....................Right 213x1...............213x1 213x1...............213x3 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 283x1...............303x1 I tried to incorporate a little more volume today, but it seems my hands really can't take it. The weight being lifted doesn't seem to be much of a factor. After about 7 sets, or so, I feel as if anything else would be risking a skin tear. I guess I could go all the way down to 200 pounds, but I doubt that would be all that the effective. Oh well, the workout felt good, and all the lifts were powerful. Great workout Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 2-20-06 1" VERTICAL BAR -221-->at least 2"-both hands -306-->nothing-right hand (stopped before injury) -at least 2"-left hand -333-->hovered-left hand -at least 2"-left hand ***PR!*** Notes: I had my fiancee witness my 2nd attempt on 333. She said that I pulled it closer to 4 or 5" off the ground. Felt like it was higher than that even. New PR by 2 pounds though. I haven't pulled over 320 since November when I did my 331. And I was pretty jacked up then due to the MM2 cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Congrats Ben! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser1972 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Congrats!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 A very respectable weight to pull. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 2-20-061" VERTICAL BAR -221-->at least 2"-both hands -306-->nothing-right hand (stopped before injury) -at least 2"-left hand -333-->hovered-left hand -at least 2"-left hand ***PR!*** Notes: I had my fiancee witness my 2nd attempt on 333. She said that I pulled it closer to 4 or 5" off the ground. Felt like it was higher than that even. New PR by 2 pounds though. I haven't pulled over 320 since November when I did my 331. And I was pretty jacked up then due to the MM2 cert. Congrats Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 2-20-061" VERTICAL BAR -221-->at least 2"-both hands -306-->nothing-right hand (stopped before injury) -at least 2"-left hand -333-->hovered-left hand -at least 2"-left hand ***PR!*** Notes: I had my fiancee witness my 2nd attempt on 333. She said that I pulled it closer to 4 or 5" off the ground. Felt like it was higher than that even. New PR by 2 pounds though. I haven't pulled over 320 since November when I did my 331. And I was pretty jacked up then due to the MM2 cert. Great job Ben! That's an awesome weight.pc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madss Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 nice Ben! Keep up those numbers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Excellent pull, Ben! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 Thanks a LOT guys! This log is already working its magic on us all. We're all getting stronger very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 2-25-2006 Not much to report today. I felt totally worn out. I assume it was due to my hard bending workout yesterday. Normally I'll bend after v-bar. Left.................Right 213.................213 213.................213 258.................258 288 (failed)......308 (failed) After this, to my surprise, I had a really good thick bar workout. Ain't that the way it always goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 I got my FBBC 1" vbar yesterday and only pulled 221 on it. So I wasn't sure if that was due to a very long day at work (@ 16 hours) or tender hands. Or just being weak. So today I rubbed a bunch of chalk on the handle, and let it sit in a bucket of chalk overnight to see if I could speed up the seasoning process a bit. I think it worked. 3-2-06 FBBC 1" VERTICAL BAR -186-->at least 2"-both hands -231-->at least 2"-both hands -256-->at least 2"-both hands -306-->nothing-right hand -at least 2"-left hand Notes: Got the 306 on video and sent it to Wannagrip to see if he would post it. Also sent it to John Beatty to see if he will approve it for a cert video. I think it was lifted 2" or more. Not sure though. Once this bar seasons all the way I expect 350 to rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Nice pullin', Ben! 3-2-2006 Well, my v-bar was way off, yet again, today. For the first time ever my hand actually slipped right off the bar as it remained motionless on the floor. It's gotta get better. Left........................Right 213........................213 213........................213 283 (fail)................283 268........................268 You wouldn't think that a one hand grip event, like v-bar, could vary by 40 pounds from workout to workout. Frustrating, to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikael Siversson Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 (edited) My vbar used to be all over the place until I started to treat this lift as any gym lift. You would not do 4 singles in the biceps curl for example. Do multiple sets with several reps. Protect the hand with a thin cloth and then finish off the workout by a couple of heavier singles without the cloth. Never max out in training. Basically never miss a training vbar lift (unless you are repping it with a cloth). You don't want to learn how to fail so you have to build your confidence. I had no doubt whatsoever that I would pull the opening weight of 160k in the Oz championship and I did. I had built my confidence by never allowing myself to fail a lift in training. Confidence is of fundamental importance in the vbar lift. Once I started repping in the vbar my results varied very, very little from one workout to the other (other than that I got stronger). Edited March 3, 2006 by Mikael Siversson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricMilfeld Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Makes sense, Mikael, and it's definitely worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuTCH Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 My vbar used to be all over the place until I started to treat this lift as any gym lift.You would not do 4 singles in the biceps curl for example. Do multiple sets with several reps. Protect the hand with a thin cloth and then finish off the workout by a couple of heavier singles without the cloth. Never max out in training. Basically never miss a training vbar lift (unless you are repping it with a cloth). You don't want to learn how to fail so you have to build your confidence. I had no doubt whatsoever that I would pull the opening weight of 160k in the Oz championship and I did. I had built my confidence by never allowing myself to fail a lift in training. Confidence is of fundamental importance in the vbar lift. Once I started repping in the vbar my results varied very, very little from one workout to the other (other than that I got stronger). Now that is some very good advice, probably the best concerning my v-bar down cycle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Got word from big John Beatty that the vbar cert with 306 is a good lift! I should be on the list by next week I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBoy Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Very nice Ben, congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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