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#1 OFFLINE   ChimpGrip

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 09:32 AM

I am searching for a pair of fixed 200 lb dumbbells. I have seen a pair of IronGrip 200s but can't find them on the Internet. I like having a fixed weight dumbbell rather than a bar to add/take off weights. Would I be better off with a dbell bar that I can add weights/take off weighs or the fixed weight dbell?

Where should I look to find fixed weight dbells @ 200 lbs a piece

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:00 AM

Man the shipping will be a bomb on that.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:53 AM

Obviously better with an adjustable bar. How many exercises will you use a 200lb db for? There's a pair in my gym that has never moved in the two years I've been going there. Get the big boy dumbbell bars from ironmind.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:37 AM

I've had memberships to 4 different gyms as an adult, and worked out at several Power lifting Clubs in Michigan and Arizona.  Only Thorbecke's in Phoenix had dumbbells that big and as far as I've seen no one ever touched them.  Maybe they got used occasionally, but I think a set of dumbbell bars you could load to various weights of your choice would be so much more versatile and useful than just 2 huge 200 lb "widow makers" with a handle.

 

Anthony suggested the dumbbell handles from Iron Mind, and those do look nice, I don't have a set so I can't speak for their quality versus price point, but I just use Olympic size dumbbell handles I got at Play it Again Sports for $20 a piece, but then again I never put on more than 120 lbs and that involves using  25's which makes it a bit awkward.



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:44 AM

Obviously better with an adjustable bar. How many exercises will you use a 200lb db for? There's a pair in my gym that has never moved in the two years I've been going there. Get the big boy dumbbell bars from ironmind.


Shrugs, rows, farmers walk, eventually dbell bench press and incline, and even further down, curls

Ill check out the iron mind bars

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:46 AM

I've had memberships to 4 different gyms as an adult, and worked out at several Power lifting Clubs in Michigan and Arizona.  Only Thorbecke's in Phoenix had dumbbells that big and as far as I've seen no one ever touched them.  Maybe they got used occasionally, but I think a set of dumbbell bars you could load to various weights of your choice would be so much more versatile and useful than just 2 huge 200 lb "widow makers" with a handle.
 
Anthony suggested the dumbbell handles from Iron Mind, and those do look nice, I don't have a set so I can't speak for their quality versus price point, but I just use Olympic size dumbbell handles I got at Play it Again Sports for $20 a piece, but then again I never put on more than 120 lbs and that involves using  25's which makes it a bit awkward.


Yeah, most people will never use a 200 lb dumbbell. Is there a dbell handle out there that can hold 10 25s on each side? Just curious.

Ill probably go with the ironmind bar.

Thank you everyone for the input.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:01 PM

Obviously better with an adjustable bar. How many exercises will you use a 200lb db for? There's a pair in my gym that has never moved in the two years I've been going there. Get the big boy dumbbell bars from ironmind.


Shrugs, rows, farmers walk, eventually dbell bench press and incline, and even further down, curls
Ill check out the iron mind bars

If you put up a video of you doing any of those exercises with that much weight, I'll PayPal you 20 dollars

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:09 PM

Obviously better with an adjustable bar. How many exercises will you use a 200lb db for? There's a pair in my gym that has never moved in the two years I've been going there. Get the big boy dumbbell bars from ironmind.

Shrugs, rows, farmers walk, eventually dbell bench press and incline, and even further down, curls
Ill check out the iron mind bars
If you put up a video of you doing any of those exercises with that much weight, I'll PayPal you 20 dollars

Once I get them, continue training, and can safely train with them, I will.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:48 PM

I think Farmer's walking 200 lb dumbells is a good goal to have.  Rowing them and pressing them is an incredible feat most people never attain, but there's nothing wrong with trying your darnedest to achieve that level of strength.  However, lets be real man, curling them lol!!  That's something out a comic book!



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:50 PM

Obviously better with an adjustable bar. How many exercises will you use a 200lb db for? There's a pair in my gym that has never moved in the two years I've been going there. Get the big boy dumbbell bars from ironmind.


Shrugs, rows, farmers walk, eventually dbell bench press and incline, and even further down, curls
Ill check out the iron mind bars

Thats a foolish bet with shrugs in there. I train strictly for health reasons now and I could still easily shrug 200 lb dbs.

now curls...I would pay to see that as well.

If you put up a video of you doing any of those exercises with that much weight, I'll PayPal you 20 dollars

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:07 PM

Well to be fair, I didn't mean 2 years down the road lol. But hell, I've been training for almost a decade and I still can't to strict shrugs with 200 lbers.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:26 PM

Farmers walking them or shrugging them isn't that hard but rowing or pressing is a feat.

Can you lift 200lb with one hand man?

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

I would suggest a pair of load able handles. Behemoth dumbbells are just status symbols for gyms, not really usefull but cool to see as a reminder of where you want to be down the road. I probably wouldn't use things even if I could just because if you're strong enough for that, you'd be better off training with a bar.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 04:00 PM

It will take you a lifetime of just lifting and eating to be able to press 200lb dumb bells. Ronnie Coleman is paid to lift weights and eat, that's it. Maybe you should buy something more economical like 100lb DB first.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=vZM4VpuKxnU

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 04:20 PM

It will take you a lifetime of just lifting and eating to be able to press 200lb dumb bells. Ronnie Coleman is paid to lift weights and eat, that's it. Maybe you should buy something more economical like 100lb DB first.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=vZM4VpuKxnU


No ill stick to looking for 200 pounders or a bar that I can make 200s with.

I can already make 100 lb dbells with what I have

Farmers walking them or shrugging them isn't that hard but rowing or pressing is a feat.

Can you lift 200lb with one hand man?


Yes I can.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 08:39 PM

I love looking for dumbbells, but the biggest I have ever seen is a 200 lb pro dumbbell. You can go to: Newyorkbarbells.com; but they are like $500 a pop for the solid ones. They have screw tightening ones that are long enough to be loaded to that weight but, lifting a 200lb dumbbell with twist-on collars sounds sketchy. They have specialty collars which look like bare pro dumbbells, but I don't know anything about them. I bought a 100 lb hex dumbbell from them several years ago and I paid $100 dollars for the bell and more than $100 dollars for shipping.

 

Two other options are the iron mind dumbbell, or the atomic athletic dumbbell bar (far cheaper). Because the atomic athletic bar is just a bare 1 1/16 inch thick bar, If you like, with a little welding, you can make it almost exactly the same as the Iron mind bar. You could also talk to the owner about having it done (be prepared for a long conversation with an extremely nice man whom you would feel badly about cutting off). With the iron mind bars, though, you get two, the necessary collars, and you don't have to fool with welding. 

 

Those websites are:

http://www.newyorkba...m/dumbells.html

http://atomicathleti...tore/index.php/

 

Also, it should be noted that the guy who invented "Croc Rows" used a 3 foot bolt designed to anchor buildings as the loading bar for his 300 lb dumbbell, and all the standard plated dumbbells I have seen over 200 lbs had bolts somewhere about them.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:10 PM

I love looking for dumbbells, but the biggest I have ever seen is a 200 lb pro dumbbell. You can go to: Newyorkbarbells.com; but they are like $500 a pop for the solid ones. They have screw tightening ones that are long enough to be loaded to that weight but, lifting a 200lb dumbbell with twist-on collars sounds sketchy. They have specialty collars which look like bare pro dumbbells, but I don't know anything about them. I bought a 100 lb hex dumbbell from them several years ago and I paid $100 dollars for the bell and more than $100 dollars for shipping.
 
Two other options are the iron mind dumbbell, or the atomic athletic dumbbell bar (far cheaper). Because the atomic athletic bar is just a bare 1 1/16 inch thick bar, If you like, with a little welding, you can make it almost exactly the same as the Iron mind bar. You could also talk to the owner about having it done (be prepared for a long conversation with an extremely nice man whom you would feel badly about cutting off). With the iron mind bars, though, you get two, the necessary collars, and you don't have to fool with welding. 
 
Those websites are:
http://www.newyorkba...m/dumbells.html
http://atomicathleti...tore/index.php/
 
Also, it should be noted that the guy who invented "Croc Rows" used a 3 foot bolt designed to anchor buildings as the loading bar for his 300 lb dumbbell, and all the standard plated dumbbells I have seen over 200 lbs had bolts somewhere about them.


I checked out the newyorkbarbell, Ill give it thought and decide what to purchase. I saw the iron mind bar, I like it. And I like the price better.

Just curious, but what's the heaviest dumbbell shrug that's ever been done?

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 04:32 AM

 

I love looking for dumbbells, but the biggest I have ever seen is a 200 lb pro dumbbell. You can go to: Newyorkbarbells.com; but they are like $500 a pop for the solid ones. They have screw tightening ones that are long enough to be loaded to that weight but, lifting a 200lb dumbbell with twist-on collars sounds sketchy. They have specialty collars which look like bare pro dumbbells, but I don't know anything about them. I bought a 100 lb hex dumbbell from them several years ago and I paid $100 dollars for the bell and more than $100 dollars for shipping.
 
Two other options are the iron mind dumbbell, or the atomic athletic dumbbell bar (far cheaper). Because the atomic athletic bar is just a bare 1 1/16 inch thick bar, If you like, with a little welding, you can make it almost exactly the same as the Iron mind bar. You could also talk to the owner about having it done (be prepared for a long conversation with an extremely nice man whom you would feel badly about cutting off). With the iron mind bars, though, you get two, the necessary collars, and you don't have to fool with welding. 
 
Those websites are:
http://www.newyorkba...m/dumbells.html
http://atomicathleti...tore/index.php/
 
Also, it should be noted that the guy who invented "Croc Rows" used a 3 foot bolt designed to anchor buildings as the loading bar for his 300 lb dumbbell, and all the standard plated dumbbells I have seen over 200 lbs had bolts somewhere about them.


I checked out the newyorkbarbell, Ill give it thought and decide what to purchase. I saw the iron mind bar, I like it. And I like the price better.

Just curious, but what's the heaviest dumbbell shrug that's ever been done?

 

 

Here's a guy dumbbell rowing 300lbs. Shitty form obviously, but still...

 



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 02:05 PM

 

 

I love looking for dumbbells, but the biggest I have ever seen is a 200 lb pro dumbbell. You can go to: Newyorkbarbells.com; but they are like $500 a pop for the solid ones. They have screw tightening ones that are long enough to be loaded to that weight but, lifting a 200lb dumbbell with twist-on collars sounds sketchy. They have specialty collars which look like bare pro dumbbells, but I don't know anything about them. I bought a 100 lb hex dumbbell from them several years ago and I paid $100 dollars for the bell and more than $100 dollars for shipping.
 
Two other options are the iron mind dumbbell, or the atomic athletic dumbbell bar (far cheaper). Because the atomic athletic bar is just a bare 1 1/16 inch thick bar, If you like, with a little welding, you can make it almost exactly the same as the Iron mind bar. You could also talk to the owner about having it done (be prepared for a long conversation with an extremely nice man whom you would feel badly about cutting off). With the iron mind bars, though, you get two, the necessary collars, and you don't have to fool with welding. 
 
Those websites are:
http://www.newyorkba...m/dumbells.html
http://atomicathleti...tore/index.php/
 
Also, it should be noted that the guy who invented "Croc Rows" used a 3 foot bolt designed to anchor buildings as the loading bar for his 300 lb dumbbell, and all the standard plated dumbbells I have seen over 200 lbs had bolts somewhere about them.


I checked out the newyorkbarbell, Ill give it thought and decide what to purchase. I saw the iron mind bar, I like it. And I like the price better.

Just curious, but what's the heaviest dumbbell shrug that's ever been done?

 

 

Here's a guy dumbbell rowing 300lbs. Shitty form obviously, but still...

 

 

That's Matt Croc doing croc rows with his modified dumbbell. His "shitty form" is the style of row that he developed--good for some things but not for others. . . He credits this row with bringing his deadlift from the low 700's to well over 800 lbs. If you read his articles on it, there is actually something very technical going on with that exercise--despite how crude it looks.

 

@Chimpgrip: I don't know what the heaviest dumbbell shrug ever recorded is, but you can safely assume that whatever weight the heaviest normal handled dumbbell has come too, it has been shrugged by somebody. If you are looking to do world record worthy shrugs, get some heavy duty farmer walk handles. Black widow sells a pair that is supposed to hold 540 lbs. . . each. That should be heavy enough to keep any shrug or rowing enthusiast busy for a while. . . 

 

I had them custom make me a row handle and the owner seemed to be willing to do any modification I was willing to pay for.

 

This is them:

http://www.blackwidowtg.com/


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 11:24 PM

Thanks for the explanation wulfgeat. Didn't know that. He's obviously very strong so he must indeed be doing something right. :-)
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