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#61 OFFLINE   Paul Savage

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:21 PM

 

First, I wish Randall the best of health.  I am a firm believer that squats cure almost everything, but this retina is an exception to the rule.  Please be careful and follow the advice of your doctors.

 

Second, Congrats on a great hub performance, Mike.  That is a big pull, and done in a contest, no less.

 

Third, if Randall doesn't know if it was an official #4 cert attempt, and the judge of the attempt doesn't know if it was an official attempt, then who does know?  Can you imagine if he did close the #4?  What then?  The legend of Joe Kinney would pale in comparison.

 

Maybe this will be an excuse not to try to squat at least 140 kg x 20 before turning 62 later this year!  Seriously, thank you, but the biggest drag was having to miss almost all of Odd's contest, but LA next year will be even bigger and better.

 

As for Paul's goal of certifying on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper, I continue to wish him well—when he asked in early June about having an attempt at David Horne's contest in August, Paul said he wasn't yet able to close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules (“The #4 with credit card i am yet to master”), but now, a few weeks later and a month out from that contest, I hope that Paul is further along and on track to reach that goal.

 

On international certification attempts, please be sure to give us a couple of weeks to get the gripper to the referee.

 

I think it will be next year for me now Randall. My palms have taken a beating after so long doing heavy grippers now (i went well above 4 level recently deep set, the HG500 in video is very heavy) so I'm not actually planning on any gripper training till well after the contest.

 

Edit - 20 repper squats do cure almost everything


Edited by Paul Savage, 02 July 2013 - 03:26 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

 

 

Third, if Randall doesn't know if it was an official #4 cert attempt, and the judge of the attempt doesn't know if it was an official attempt, then who does know?  Can you imagine if he did close the #4?  What then?  The legend of Joe Kinney would pale in comparison.

I think Randy is being a nice guy by not chewing me out and asking me what I was thinking. I "sort of assumed" that Burke and Randy had discussed it in advance. And, Randy not being 100% (and having left) it was a bit confusing. RJS left after the 3rd event. After the Silver Bullet and before the Hub. So, if he closed it, I doubt if it would have flown. Tragically, he injured himself trying.

 

Ok, got it.  You were just trying to help, considering the circumstances with Randall leaving early.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:56 PM

 

 

Third, if Randall doesn't know if it was an official #4 cert attempt, and the judge of the attempt doesn't know if it was an official attempt, then who does know?  Can you imagine if he did close the #4?  What then?  The legend of Joe Kinney would pale in comparison.

I think Randy is being a nice guy by not chewing me out and asking me what I was thinking. I "sort of assumed" that Burke and Randy had discussed it in advance. And, Randy not being 100% (and having left) it was a bit confusing. RJS left after the 3rd event. After the Silver Bullet and before the Hub. So, if he closed it, I doubt if it would have flown. Tragically, he injured himself trying.

 

Let me be perfectly clear about this: if Mike Burke had told me he wanted to try to officially close the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper, I'd have given him a shot and I'd have probably whistled in Mike Corlett or Odd Haugen to referee it, so Mike C. (sorry, Hubgeezer) should not apologize for anything—although I was a little surprised to hear about this for the first time earlier today.  

 

Same goes for Rich Williams, if he'd made it to the contest: if he'd said he was ready and wanted a shot at it, I'd have let him try it too.

 

What both of these guys have in common is casually certifying on the Captains of Crush No. 3.5 gripper in a very public setting and both have officially done over 500 lb. on the Apollon's Axle, for starters, so the leap from that zone to saying they are ready to destroy the CoC No. 4 is not huge.

 

So, don't blame Mike C. for doing what I'd have done too and never believe him if he ever says anything good about me because rumor has it that he's my cousin.

 

On the travel thing for Paul, I can fully understand that getting to Los Angeles is a bit of a hike from England, but David Horne lives within about a hour, I think, so maybe David would be willing to let Paul attack the CoC Silver Bullet world record under official conditions, as well as make an official attempt on the CoC No. 4 if he's prepared.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:56 PM

If I am chosen for any gripper cert by IronMind I will always help out.

 

As for a Silver Bullet event at a contest; yes I'm absolutely sure there will be one, maybe in November or next year.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:10 AM



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:19 AM

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:04 AM

Did Clay Edgin not show up?



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:52 AM

Did Clay Edgin not show up?


Injured in the Strongman contest on Saturday. Was not there Sunday.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:35 AM

Dammit, looks like he hurt himself.  Hope he's alright.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:33 AM

If I am chosen for any gripper cert by IronMind I will always help out.

 

As for a Silver Bullet event at a contest; yes I'm absolutely sure there will be one, maybe in November or next year.

David -

 

Many thanks and it would be terrific for Paul to be able to get credit for a world record on the CoC Silver Bullet if he really can beat Mike Burke's time.  

 

Also, as ever, I am more than happy to arrange an official attempt so that Paul can certify on the CoC No. 3, No. 3.5 and/or No. 4 if he still feels he is ready for any of these at your upcoming contest.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:42 AM

 

 

First, I wish Randall the best of health.  I am a firm believer that squats cure almost everything, but this retina is an exception to the rule.  Please be careful and follow the advice of your doctors.

 

Second, Congrats on a great hub performance, Mike.  That is a big pull, and done in a contest, no less.

 

Third, if Randall doesn't know if it was an official #4 cert attempt, and the judge of the attempt doesn't know if it was an official attempt, then who does know?  Can you imagine if he did close the #4?  What then?  The legend of Joe Kinney would pale in comparison.

 

Maybe this will be an excuse not to try to squat at least 140 kg x 20 before turning 62 later this year!  Seriously, thank you, but the biggest drag was having to miss almost all of Odd's contest, but LA next year will be even bigger and better.

 

As for Paul's goal of certifying on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper, I continue to wish him well—when he asked in early June about having an attempt at David Horne's contest in August, Paul said he wasn't yet able to close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules (“The #4 with credit card i am yet to master”), but now, a few weeks later and a month out from that contest, I hope that Paul is further along and on track to reach that goal.

 

On international certification attempts, please be sure to give us a couple of weeks to get the gripper to the referee.

 

I think it will be next year for me now Randall. My palms have taken a beating after so long doing heavy grippers now (i went well above 4 level recently deep set, the HG500 in video is very heavy) so I'm not actually planning on any gripper training till well after the contest.

 

Edit - 20 repper squats do cure almost everything

 

Paul -

 

Sorry to be slow here, but the brouhaha got started because you originally said you wanted to try to certify on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper at David's contest in August—that's what you told IronMind in early June, when you also said you couldn't yet close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules.  So then we (as in IronMind) asked you to check back when you had mastered the gripper and we wished you good luck reaching your goal, etc.  

 

For a variety of reasons, some guys mistranslated this into you were robbed by IronMind, even though the situation was clear to anyone who took the time to read the rules and your statements of where you were on grippers.

 

Now, roughly halfway between then and your target date, just when I would hope you were drawing very near to your goal, you are saying that you're out until next year.

 

Anyway, I continue to wish you well with your training—hope you can seize the opportunity to break the world record in the CoC Silver Bullet and certify on the CoC No. 4 in the near future . . . it would be a tremendous achievement in the grip strength world.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

 

 

 

First, I wish Randall the best of health.  I am a firm believer that squats cure almost everything, but this retina is an exception to the rule.  Please be careful and follow the advice of your doctors.

 

Second, Congrats on a great hub performance, Mike.  That is a big pull, and done in a contest, no less.

 

Third, if Randall doesn't know if it was an official #4 cert attempt, and the judge of the attempt doesn't know if it was an official attempt, then who does know?  Can you imagine if he did close the #4?  What then?  The legend of Joe Kinney would pale in comparison.

 

Maybe this will be an excuse not to try to squat at least 140 kg x 20 before turning 62 later this year!  Seriously, thank you, but the biggest drag was having to miss almost all of Odd's contest, but LA next year will be even bigger and better.

 

As for Paul's goal of certifying on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper, I continue to wish him well—when he asked in early June about having an attempt at David Horne's contest in August, Paul said he wasn't yet able to close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules (“The #4 with credit card i am yet to master”), but now, a few weeks later and a month out from that contest, I hope that Paul is further along and on track to reach that goal.

 

On international certification attempts, please be sure to give us a couple of weeks to get the gripper to the referee.

 

I think it will be next year for me now Randall. My palms have taken a beating after so long doing heavy grippers now (i went well above 4 level recently deep set, the HG500 in video is very heavy) so I'm not actually planning on any gripper training till well after the contest.

 

Edit - 20 repper squats do cure almost everything

 

Paul -

 

Sorry to be slow here, but the brouhaha got started because you originally said you wanted to try to certify on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper at David's contest in August—that's what you told IronMind in early June, when you also said you couldn't yet close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules.  So then we (as in IronMind) asked you to check back when you had mastered the gripper and we wished you good luck reaching your goal, etc.  

 

For a variety of reasons, some guys mistranslated this into you were robbed by IronMind, even though the situation was clear to anyone who took the time to read the rules and your statements of where you were on grippers.

 

Now, roughly halfway between then and your target date, just when I would hope you were drawing very near to your goal, you are saying that you're out until next year.

 

Anyway, I continue to wish you well with your training—hope you can seize the opportunity to break the world record in the CoC Silver Bullet and certify on the CoC No. 4 in the near future . . . it would be a tremendous achievement in the grip strength world.

 

The thing is this, now that I've read and understood the actual rules, i don't want to do it any other way (as said, i have no issues with it personally). People might say I'm crazy but i fully believe I'll be double no setting 4's in my 30's, and will be 'any place, any time' on full strength 4's ccs over the next 1-2 years. I don't need to keep pushing (keep in mind i initially started training for a may cert at bodypower expo) right now an risk injury/further injury as i have been going hard for several months. The tendons need time to adjust. I have seen good progress focusing this much, especially my left hand, hitting a bunch of personal records etc but it's also taken it's toll on my body and at this level you have to be smart. My body wasn't really designed to crush 365lb grippers in my hands. I will have holiday after worlds strongest hands, take some time off, see how my body responds and go from there. Maybe bodypower expo next year will work, maybe earlier, i don't know.

 

Thank you for your kind wishes.


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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:27 AM

 

 

 

 

First, I wish Randall the best of health.  I am a firm believer that squats cure almost everything, but this retina is an exception to the rule.  Please be careful and follow the advice of your doctors.

 

Second, Congrats on a great hub performance, Mike.  That is a big pull, and done in a contest, no less.

 

Third, if Randall doesn't know if it was an official #4 cert attempt, and the judge of the attempt doesn't know if it was an official attempt, then who does know?  Can you imagine if he did close the #4?  What then?  The legend of Joe Kinney would pale in comparison.

 

Maybe this will be an excuse not to try to squat at least 140 kg x 20 before turning 62 later this year!  Seriously, thank you, but the biggest drag was having to miss almost all of Odd's contest, but LA next year will be even bigger and better.

 

As for Paul's goal of certifying on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper, I continue to wish him well—when he asked in early June about having an attempt at David Horne's contest in August, Paul said he wasn't yet able to close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules (“The #4 with credit card i am yet to master”), but now, a few weeks later and a month out from that contest, I hope that Paul is further along and on track to reach that goal.

 

On international certification attempts, please be sure to give us a couple of weeks to get the gripper to the referee.

 

I think it will be next year for me now Randall. My palms have taken a beating after so long doing heavy grippers now (i went well above 4 level recently deep set, the HG500 in video is very heavy) so I'm not actually planning on any gripper training till well after the contest.

 

Edit - 20 repper squats do cure almost everything

 

Paul -

 

Sorry to be slow here, but the brouhaha got started because you originally said you wanted to try to certify on the Captains of Crush No. 4 gripper at David's contest in August—that's what you told IronMind in early June, when you also said you couldn't yet close a CoC No. 4 according to the rules.  So then we (as in IronMind) asked you to check back when you had mastered the gripper and we wished you good luck reaching your goal, etc.  

 

For a variety of reasons, some guys mistranslated this into you were robbed by IronMind, even though the situation was clear to anyone who took the time to read the rules and your statements of where you were on grippers.

 

Now, roughly halfway between then and your target date, just when I would hope you were drawing very near to your goal, you are saying that you're out until next year.

 

Anyway, I continue to wish you well with your training—hope you can seize the opportunity to break the world record in the CoC Silver Bullet and certify on the CoC No. 4 in the near future . . . it would be a tremendous achievement in the grip strength world.

 

The thing is this, now that I've read and understood the actual rules, i don't want to do it any other way (as said, i have no issues with it personally). People might say I'm crazy but i fully believe I'll be double no setting 4's in my 30's, and will be 'any place, any time' on full strength 4's ccs over the next 1-2 years. I don't need to keep pushing (keep in mind i initially started training for a may cert at bodypower expo) right now an risk injury/further injury as i have been going hard for several months. The tendons need time to adjust. I have seen good progress focusing this much, especially my left hand, hitting a bunch of personal records etc but it's also taken it's toll on my body and at this level you have to be smart. My body wasn't really designed to crush 365lb grippers in my hands. I will have holiday after worlds strongest hands, take some time off, see how my body responds and go from there. Maybe bodypower expo next year will work, maybe earlier, i don't know.

 

Thank you for your kind wishes.

 

Smart thinking Paul - slow and steady wins the race - Luck to you.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

 

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:59 AM

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:00 AM

My nose is indeed slightly bent out of shape, but where i come from, this comes from a fist, not a gripper attempt.

I would however certainly protest him getting an official attempt when hes not even close to closing a new 4 (if you made a 4.5 i could get it to 1/4 inch an so could steve g for that matter), as this of course, does not go buy the rules. I have no problem with the rules, just as long as every body is treated the same.

Impressive performances in grip contests don't consistute closing a new 4 ccs, an even if it did, it's not like hes miles ahead of the rest even in the big hand events. Just thinking of brits alone, chris james has pulled more on the axle with sub 8 inch hands, laine snook has done 137kg rolling thunder for 10 reps, i've done more than his silver bullet with my left hand, nevermind my right, steve did 10 reps on a mellenium dumbbell once (harder than even 50 reps on an inch), an we both pulled 95kg in plates on little big horn back in 2009 (steve probably more, i just tried it for him). Lets not forget holle either, reportably ccsing old 4's a number of years back. If anybody has cosistently closed new 4 ccs it would be him.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:07 AM

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There was an error on the women's hub in the first version of the results. I am not sure where those worksheets came from, Odd Haugen's website maybe? He has the corrected numbers now. Only change was that second place was 39, not 32 lbs.
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Posted 23 July 2013 - 11:52 AM

Kashtan - Think steve was a little confused there, he did 9 reps on the heavy grip tools inch (79kg) left handed, and 10 reps on the mellenium right handed. I was filming/counting.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:37 AM

Kashtan - Think steve was a little confused there, he did 9 reps on the heavy grip tools inch (79kg) left handed, and 10 reps on the mellenium right handed. I was filming/counting.

Paul - there is a video?




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