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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:59 AM
Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:06 AM
Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:07 AM
These are examples to work with. Thanks, Mikael.
Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:54 AM
This is a subject near and dear to my heart. When I was a member of the International Grip Collective I proposed International Powerlifing Federation standards for the axle. Not to split hairs, but I want to make an important distinction between what the IPF rules state and how some of their judges actually interpret and enforce those rules. I can speak to this personally, having been under their scrutiny on the platform. Well written rules minimize room for judges' interpretation, and while the IPF rules are well written and their judging is for the most part fair, I've witnessed cases in which judges went above and beyond. That's what we need to avoid. For example, I completed what most would consider a picture perfect deadlift only to receive two red lights. I asked the head ref about it and he explained I didn't return the bar to the platform under control. Well, I guess he and I interpreted "under control differently". He was looking for a million frames per second slow motion. My idea was hands on the bar until it returned and rested on the platform (watching some recent Worlds, I see this trend seems to have stopped, thankfully). Of course, you also have examples of guys being locked out while the judge is apparently counting "one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, three-one-thousand...". Most of the videos Mikael posted are good examples of what should be failed attempts. A couple of them are borderline. With borderline I think the lifter should be given the benefit of the doubt. The Russian girl, although her hands were opening up as the bar approached the floor, appears to still have hand contact with the bar all the way down. I would have passed that lift. Also, while Brent's lift did receive a quick "down" signal, he did appear to have just reached the lockout position. Again, perhaps I'm splitting hairs here, but these are important points that need to be nailed down by all concerned. But the examples Mikael produced on short notice aside, I've seen plenty of pulls given the "down" command short of lockout at grip contests over the years. And I think that's far and away the biggest, most prevalent problem we need to fix.
Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:47 AM
Here's the IPF rules as they could apply to grip sport (rule #1 is specific to powerlifting). As a side note, Jedd's rocking back on his heels is permissable:
Posted 09 June 2013 - 04:17 PM
Edited by Mikael Siversson, 09 June 2013 - 04:20 PM.
Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:08 AM
Regarding that lift by the Russian girl, the bar was without a doubt, 'slipping' out of her hands and I therefore respectfully disagree with Eric in this case. You can maintain contact with a bar, if you are quick enough, even if you loose your grip already at lockout.
The bar may or may not have been slipping from her hands. Maybe she was intentionally going slack with her grip as she approached the floor with it. But judges should not be required to differentiate between the two. And according to how IPF rules are interpreted the lift would have been good, as it was not released from her "palms" (yes, I realize technically it may have, but certainly she maintained finger contact). But that raises another point: I don't like the wording of IPF rules here, as technically, someone deadlifting with the bar solely in their fingers, with no palm contact, would be in violation of #7. And I do know this is allowed. Maybe it should simply say hands or fingers, instead of palms.
And, yes, if you're very quick you could theoretically "chase" the bar down with your hands maintaining hand contact all the while. But again, it would be a very slippery slope, best avoided, to try and determine when and if this is being done. Again, black and white, well defined rules are the way to go. And really, if a lifter locks out the weight, is then given a down command, and then starts to lose their grip, but not to the point where the hands ever lose contact with the bar, I'm good with that. Too much grey area and guessing trying to make judgement calls in such cases.
Posted 10 June 2013 - 04:26 PM
The results from this comp are now live on the www.Gripsport.org site. Thanks go to Eric for entering them.
Posted 11 June 2013 - 11:10 AM
Awesome job to whoever entered them!!!
Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:38 PM
Couple more videos I have gotten uploaded.
Jedd Johnson Medley (BIG THANKS to Brandon Gerber for filming JT and me!)
Wrist Roller Video - ALL Athletes, except Paul Knight and Mary Sparks
Be sure to watch for Nick Rosendaul, doing the Axle Rose Dance.
Too bad the sweet moves didn't help. If you want to dance to mid - late 90's hip hop Stew and I are your guys Jedd:) Maybe we should put out a how to video.
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