Is This A New Gripper?
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:47 AM
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:07 PM
Really looking forward to Zenith #3!
Thank you—I think you will enjoy it and even though it does things differently than a Captains of Crush Gripper, it just might help you clinch the deal for certifying on a CoC No. 3.5.
Response to your third question. Yes i gets harder the more you play with it.
I did have three questions:
1) I didn't understand the use of the word "digital". Does this just mean something like "digital age"? Or is it a play on words like "fingers"?
2) What is the "no surpise geometry?" The green diagnoal arrow doesn't appear to correspond with anything?
3) The copy for the spring says "designed for gradual increases in resistance, rep after rep." You're not saying the new alloy spring gets harder with use are you?
Thanks in advance! It sure looks sharp.
I mean each rep feels harder because you are fatiguing.
Can't argue with that one.
Any idea of when the #3 will release, Randy? Also, will its difficulty be the same as a CoC #3?
The Zenith Agility, Trainer and No. 1 will start shipping next week, and the Zenith No. 2 and No. 3 the following week.
Although the feel is different (by design), I would say the Zenith No. 3 is a little easier to close—it will be interesting to hear where guys peg it. Something like a CoC 2.7 or CoC 2.8 maybe? But the main thing is that is feels different, will work your hand in a different way, and will allow you to train differently, for different results.
IronMind's general recommendation is that guys move down one or two levels from a CoC to a Zenith—that might seem counterintuitive given what I said about the relative difficulty of closing these two grippers, but to really take advantage of what Zenith is built to do, we think this is the place to start.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:29 PM
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:13 PM
So the zenith #3 won't be too far out then? I was under the impression it would be... awhile. Cool.
I will be waiting for the 2 and 3
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:31 AM
I am realizing that there are a couple of things IronMind could have done a better job of explaining about Zenith grippers and the (first related to Matt's question) is that the new spring IronMind developed for Zenith was designed for both a long life and a smooth ride: the idea is that you will feel the load building up slowly as the handles move toward each other and you will be able to enjoy this for the long haul.
Also, I would like to a add a couple of comments in terms of selecting a Zenith gripper and how they compare to Captains of Crush grippers in terms of their relative difficulty.
Our general recommendation is that you start with the Zenith gripper that is at the same level as the Captains of Crush (CoC) gripper you are using for your work sets: so if you're doing work sets with a CoC No. 1, begin with a Zenith-1, for example. Please note that the Zenith-1 will be easier to close than a CoC No. 1 and that is by design, since each gripper has a different focus, even thought they were also designed to work together seamlessly. This same Zenith-CoC pattern applies all up and down the CoC ladder.
Zenith grippers are intended to be used for things like warming up, cooling down, active rest, preh, rehab, conditioning, etc., while Captains of Crush grippers will remain your gripper of first choice for workouts designed for maximum gains in grip strength.
Of course, even if your primary focus in on being the next guy to certify on the CoC No. 4, Zenith grippers could well have a valuable place in your training program—in addition to what I mentioned above, they can be your go-to gripper on your off days (what off days, right?), and if you think easier on your hands and easier to close means wimpy, I always got a kick out of it when Dave Morton (CoC4 '03) told me that his favorite gripper was the Captains of Crush Trainer.
Please feel free to fire away with any questions or comments you might have—I'll try to answer the questions and learn from your comment.
Thanks again for your interest in Zenith gripper—it's an eyeful and wait until you see how good it feels and how well works in your hand.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:09 PM
RS,
Any update on when the IM website will make the 2 & 3's available for purchase?
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:16 PM
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:17 PM
I'm thinking that maybe IronMind should do a prize for the best guesses—not sure how we could set that up, but I'm open to suggestions.
Dr. Strossen!
I have a suggestion; make a #2 or #2.5 Zenith gripper and start a cert process for that. Oh, and make a special t-shirt ONLY for those who are able to cert on it (something like, "I am the ZENITH - could you be too?"). I have lots of ideas... I just have to do some "think tank" work.
From - the village idiot
of the grip world,
Sybersnott (a.k.a. John Hicks)
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:22 PM
If nobody saw it yet, The Zenith 2 and 3 (Z2 and Z3) are now for sell.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:33 AM
If nobody saw it yet, The Zenith 2 and 3 (Z2 and Z3) are now for sell.
Thanks for the info.. I ordered Z1 already but might want to add those two to my collection also..
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:07 PM
If nobody saw it yet, The Zenith 2 and 3 (Z2 and Z3) are now for sell.
Thanks for the info.. I ordered Z1 already but might want to add those two to my collection also..
No problem, I saw that it was up and the information over here wasn't updated; just wanted to give everyone a heads up about them being out.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:10 PM
If nobody saw it yet, The Zenith 2 and 3 (Z2 and Z3) are now for sell.
Thanks for the info.. I ordered Z1 already but might want to add those two to my collection also..
No problem, I saw that it was up and the information over here wasn't updated; just wanted to give everyone a heads up about them being out.
John -
Thanks much—unfortunately, I have not been over here for a while and should have put links to the stories in the IronMind news column for the Zenith stories . . . I don't think I even got them on the IronMind forum, either.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:10 PM
I know this goes against the concept of the Zenith grippers, but would you ever make a Zenith #4? Since they are meant for conditioning, and the handles feel kinder to the skin, they could be very beneficial for doing negatives, considering they amount of force the #4 produces.
Of course, that could be a stupid suggestion.
Anyway, I might buy a couple when I get paid next.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:36 AM
If nobody saw it yet, The Zenith 2 and 3 (Z2 and Z3) are now for sell.
Thanks for the info.. I ordered Z1 already but might want to add those two to my collection also..
No problem, I saw that it was up and the information over here wasn't updated; just wanted to give everyone a heads up about them being out.
John -
Thanks much—unfortunately, I have not been over here for a while and should have put links to the stories in the IronMind news column for the Zenith stories . . . I don't think I even got them on the IronMind forum, either.
It's no problem, I figured everyone may want to know the Z2's and Z3's are out.
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