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About one month ago I decided to start training with my fat gripz, which I bought back in 2009 and barely used, I know shame on me.

I also just started to use my ironmind grippers about two times a week.
3 times a week I train in a gym to do some powerlifting and hope to start with strongman soon.
Because I’m new to griptraining I decided to log here to learn from the best. Therefore I will only log my gripwork. I think my powerlifting and strongman training is not that interesting for you guys to read.
I’m training for allround strength so I think it will be hard to progress fast on specific grip elements. I’m looking forward on the input of you grip experts.
Griptraining implements I will use are:
Grippers (IM#S#T#1#1.5#2#2.5 GHP456)
Fat gripz (barbell and dumbbell)
Rolling thunder (2-3/8”- 6cm)
Hub pinch (3”- 7,6cm)
Block pinch (1-37/64”- 4cm and 3-5/32”- 8cm)
Wristroller (2-3/8”- 6cm) + Twist yo’ wrist (4”- 10cm)
Hammer levering / coin deadlift (5kg/11lb)
Farmer holds
Extensor bands (ironmind)
5/3/2015
Overhead Press - Fat Gripz
65kg/143lb x 3
62.5kg/138lb x 5
62.5kg/138lb x 5
62.5kg/138lb x 5
62.5kg/138lb x 5
62.5kg/138lb x 5
62.5kg/138lb x 5 PR
Farmer holds
60kg/132lb x 20 sec
75kg/165lb x 20 sec
85kg/187lb x 20 sec
100kg/220lb x 50 sec PR
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Working grip with overall body power is the way to build long lasting functional strength. Sounds like you have a good idea of what it takes from the start.

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Working grip with overall body power is the way to build long lasting functional strength. Sounds like you have a good idea of what it takes from the start.

Thnx

I hope it does and hope I do. ;)

5/6/2015

#Bench Press - Fat Gripz

60kg/132lb x 5
70kg/154lb x 5
80kg/176lb x 5
90kg/198lb x 5
100kg/220lb x 5
102.5kg/226lb x 5
#Crushing Grip - right hand
IM#Sx10
IM#Sx10
IM#Tx5
IM#Tx5
IM#1x3
IM#1
IM#1.5
GHP4 (96LB)
GHP4
GHP4 PR
GHP4
GHP4
GHP4
#Crushing Grip - left hand
IM#Sx10
IM#Sx10
IM#Tx5
IM#Tx5
IM#Tx3
IM#Tx3
IM#1
IM#1
IM#1.5 PR
IM#1.5
IM#1.5
IM#1.5
IM#1.5
#Deadlift - Fat Gripz Overhand
70kg/154lb x 5
75kg/165lb x 5
80kg/176lb
85kg/187lb
87.5kg/193lb
90kg/198lb
92.5kg/204lb PR
95kg/210lb PR
#Seated db press - Fat Gripz
26kg/57lb x 8
26kg/57lb x 8
26kg/57lb x 8
#Dumbbell curl - Fat Gripz
18kg/40lb x 8
18kg/40lb x 8
18kg/40lb x 8
Good train. Watched some youtube clips made by Chez about grippers. Tried it and to my surprise it worked. :grin:
Combined the crush work with my bench press. Normally I have a hard time with the GHP4 and this time I closed it easy. It's time for the IM#2.
Left hand I closed the IM#1.5 for the first time, and then 4 more. :cool
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I just rated my grippers. 3 pre-rated gripper I bought from cannonworks. My results were very close to those from cannon.

#x.x - 43lb – IM#S

#0.2 - 61lb – IM#T
#1.0 - 80lb – IM#1
#1.5 - 87lb – IM#1.5
#1.7 - 96lb – GHP4 / cannonworks 96lb
#2.1 - 112lb – IM#2
#2.2 - 115lb – GHP5 / cannonworks 114lb
#2.4 - 120lb – IM#2.5
#2.5 - 126lb – GHP6 / cannonworks 125lb
Only the GHP5 and 6 are 1lb off. Very pleased with the results.
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#Overhead Press - Fat Gripz

65kg/143lb x 3
68kg/150lb x 3 PR
68kg/150lb x 3
68kg/150lb x 3
68kg/150lb x 3
68kg/150lb x 3
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#Bench Press - Fat Gripz

100kg/220lb x 3
105kg/231.5lb x 3
107.5kg/237lb x 3 PR
110kg/242.5lb x 3 PR
#Block pinch (8cm / 3-5/32inch)
15kg/33.05lb
15.5kg/34.15lb
16kg/35.25lb
16.5kg/36.4lb
17kg/37.5lb
17.5kg/38.6lb
18kg/39.7lbPR
18.5kg/40.8lb PR
19.25kg/42.5lb right hand fail PR
19.75kg/43.6lb PR
20.25kg/44.7lb PR
#Hub pinch (7,6cm/3inch)
12.5kg/27.6lb
13kg/28.7lb
13.5kg/29.8lb
14kg/30.9lb
14.5kg/32lb
15kg/33.1lb right hand fail PR
15.5kg/34.2lb PR
#V-bar lift (5cm/2inch)
47kg/103.6lb
52kg/114.7lb
57kg/125.7lb
62kg/136.7lb
67kg/147.7lb
72kg/158.8lb
77kg/169.8lb
82kg/180.8lb
Fist time allround grip training. Block and hub pinch I did one time.
Today was no crush grip day. Only 2 closes GHP4.
Don't know if these are good numbers to start with.
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#Seated db press - Fat Gripz

22kg/48.5lb x 8
26kg/57.3lb x 8
28kg/61.8lb x 8
30kg/66.2lb x 8 PR
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#Bench Press - Fat Gripz

100kg/220lb x 3

105kg/231.5lb x 3

107.5kg/237lb x 3 PR

110kg/242.5lb x 3 PR

#Block pinch (8cm / 3-5/32inch)

15kg/33.05lb

15.5kg/34.15lb

16kg/35.25lb

16.5kg/36.4lb

17kg/37.5lb

17.5kg/38.6lb

18kg/39.7lbPR

18.5kg/40.8lb PR

19.25kg/42.5lb right hand fail PR

19.75kg/43.6lb PR

20.25kg/44.7lb PR

#Hub pinch (7,6cm/3inch)

12.5kg/27.6lb

13kg/28.7lb

13.5kg/29.8lb

14kg/30.9lb

14.5kg/32lb

15kg/33.1lb right hand fail PR

15.5kg/34.2lb PR

#V-bar lift (5cm/2inch)

47kg/103.6lb

52kg/114.7lb

57kg/125.7lb

62kg/136.7lb

67kg/147.7lb

72kg/158.8lb

77kg/169.8lb

82kg/180.8lb

Fist time allround grip training. Block and hub pinch I did one time.

Today was no crush grip day. Only 2 closes GHP4.

Don't know if these are good numbers to start with.

Yes good starting numbers man. Careful with the vbar to not to activate the biceps too much. Keep them neutral. 180 is a solid pull.

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Thanks that gives hope for the future.

I likes the v-bar a lot, and good tip. It's the same with a deadlift.

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#Bench Press - Fat Gripz

60kg/132lb x 5
70kg/154lb x 5
80kg/176lb x 5
90kg/198lb x 5
100kg/220lb x 5
#Dumbbell Row - Fat Gripz
30kg/66lb x 8
34kg/75lb x 8
Did some crushing yesterday. My hands are getting sore, it was a weak training.
Will take some rest and try to close my new #2 next week.
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Good stuff man, did not realize since shortly that you are Dutch also heh. Good luck with your training! I noticed you do a lot of thickbar work with the fatgripz, be careful not to overdo that. If you look for allround gripstrength, i'd focus less on grippers, because they have little carryover and need a lot of recovery time. In my experience I got the most out of the Fatgripz just doing holds, so static above dynamc work. Last mentioned places a lot of stress on the lower arms. Also with pressing I don't feel the FG's work the grip that much. It's a pressing movement so all you need to do is stabilize the bar more, so it makes the press itself also less profitable. Only thing I read is that fatbar presses seem to be easier on the wrists for some people. So maybe there you have an advantage.

You work grip a lot, just be careful not do overdo it bro. Injuries always come unexpected from overdoing. Maybe you are a lot more different than me, but if you work one or two gripsessions at most per week, than you're fine. For the regular training I'd ditch the Fatgripz, since you work grip already and it holds the lift itself back plus the risk of injury because of the stress on the lower arms dynamic work creates. It's all about figuring out in the end, I am no know it all either of course. Nice to have you here dude. Keep at it.

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Good stuff man, did not realize since shortly that you are Dutch also heh. Good luck with your training! I noticed you do a lot of thickbar work with the fatgripz, be careful not to overdo that. If you look for allround gripstrength, i'd focus less on grippers, because they have little carryover and need a lot of recovery time. In my experience I got the most out of the Fatgripz just doing holds, so static above dynamc work. Last mentioned places a lot of stress on the lower arms. Also with pressing I don't feel the FG's work the grip that much. It's a pressing movement so all you need to do is stabilize the bar more, so it makes the press itself also less profitable. Only thing I read is that fatbar presses seem to be easier on the wrists for some people. So maybe there you have an advantage.

You work grip a lot, just be careful not do overdo it bro. Injuries always come unexpected from overdoing. Maybe you are a lot more different than me, but if you work one or two gripsessions at most per week, than you're fine. For the regular training I'd ditch the Fatgripz, since you work grip already and it holds the lift itself back plus the risk of injury because of the stress on the lower arms dynamic work creates. It's all about figuring out in the end, I am no know it all either of course. Nice to have you here dude. Keep at it.

Hey Geralt, thnx for the advice.

I really like to use thick bar in my training. In the beginning it was very taxing for the hands/wrists and forearms but they seem to adapt fast. I have an permanent injury in my right hand. An oly bar hurts my hand a lot, the fat gripz spread the force more evenly in my hands. I will be careful and will stop the gripz if overtraining is close at hand.

I updated my blocks and hub. I made these parts in the past but the paint was very slick. Saw that ironmind added a crinkle surface on the new block en hub. So bought a can crinkle paint, glad with the result.

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#Crushing Grip - right hand

IM#Sx10
IM#Sx10
IM#Tx5
IM#Tx5
IM#1x3
IM#1
IM#1.5
GHP4
GHP4
IM#2 1,5cm opening
IM#2 1cm opening
IM#2 1cm opening
GHP4
#Crushing Grip - left hand
IM#Sx10
IM#Sx10
IM#Tx5
IM#Tx5
IM#Tx3
IM#Tx3
IM#1
IM#1
IM#1.5
IM#1.5
IM#1.5
IM#1.5
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Thnx, I planned to lift the hub but finished my rolling thunder today and wanted to play with it right away. :D

Made a beginner mistake, did some heavy crushing yesterday so my arms were jelly, resulted in some weak lifting.

#Rolling Thunder

23kg/51lb
33kg/73lb
38kg/84lb
43kg/95lb
48kg/106lb
50.5kg/111lb
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#Seated db press

20 x 8
26 x 8
30 x 5
34 x 5
34 x 5 PR
#Lat pull down - Fat Gripz
55 x 8
65 x 8
75 x 8
80 x 8
85 x 5
#Lat pull down
95 x 5
#Slingshot bench press
80 x 8
100 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
115 x 5
#Dumbbell curl - Fat Gripz
16 x 8
18 x 8
20 x 8
20 x 8
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Dynamic stretch + core + gluteus rehab + triggerball massage

#Bench Press - Fat Gripz
60 x 5
70 x 5
80 x 5
90 x 3
100 x 3
110 x 3
#Bench Press
112.5
112.5 x 4
112.5 x 4
112.5 x 4
112.5 x 4
112.5 x 4
#Squat
60 x 8
70 x 8
80 x 8
90 x 8
#Rolling Thunder
18.5
28.5
33.5
38.5
43.5
48.5
48.5 x 3
48.5 x 3
46 x 3
46 x 3
46 x 3
#Block pinch (8cm)
18
19.25
19.75
20.5
21.75
23
23.5
24
24.75
25.5
RT is very weak, damn. Need to train the RT a lot so I will make some gains.
Tried some gripper, no more power. Need to put them early in the training.
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That was to expect haha, regarding grippers. Good training, all in all. I tried pressing with grippers for CNS but somehow I squeeze to hard so it kills my grippers. Let alone thickbarwork for pressing.

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What do you mean by you squeeze to hard? To hard in the barbell?

I know you are no fan with the fat gripz. Why stop with thick bar pressing? Presses feel better for my hands and train my wrist.

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By all means keep doing that, just meant to say that doesn't work for me. I do like the FG's but for myself more with static holds or dumbbellifts.

You remarked the grippers didn't work at the end. Somehow grippers don't seem to combine with anything in my training regarding grip at the moment. Only thing griprelated are the grippers at the moment and only now it's coming together. For me specializing is everything so it seems.

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I know I really want to make some gains on the grippers but grippers only doesn't have carry-over that is very useful for powerlifting and strongman. Pinch and holds are more functional for me at the moment I think. I need a lot more thumb power and muscle mass to have a solid base for the harder grippers.

What would you advise me for the block pinch, more focus on the 4cm or 8cm block or change them regularly?

Damn my hands and forearms are sore from training yesterday. :blush

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My pinch basically sucks bro...I would just try different widths indeed, experiment with what width fits you most. Also the pinch material says a lot. Wood, metal, seasoned metal, etc. I still need to figure out what width works for me with the 2HP. But for now I just do thumbscrews now and than for the Thumbpad.

Grippers have the least carryover to strongman if you ask me. I think with thickbar and wristwork alone you are pretty good to go for that.

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My pinch basically sucks bro...I would just try different widths indeed, experiment with what width fits you most. Also the pinch material says a lot. Wood, metal, seasoned metal, etc. I still need to figure out what width works for me with the 2HP. But for now I just do thumbscrews now and than for the Thumbpad.

Grippers have the least carryover to strongman if you ask me. I think with thickbar and wristwork alone you are pretty good to go for that.

Thnx will do that.

#Hub pinch (7,6cm)

13
15
16.25
17.25
18
18.75
19.75
20.5
21.5
22.5
23
#Seated db press
22 x 8
26 x 8
28 x 8
32 x 8 PR
32 x 5
#Leg extension
90 x 8
100 x 8
110 x 8
120 x 8
#leg curl
59 x 8
68 x 8
77 x 8
86 x 8
Haha hub train was great. Last time did 15,5kg (34lb) and now 23kg (50lb). Hub has been updated with crinkle finish.
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