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Question for Wade mainly unless anyone else knows... I'm not sure if it has been asked (I apologize for the redundancy if so), but if we would still like to certify on a 7, 8 or 9 but can't get our hands on a real GHP set block, could the Cannon set block be used as a substitute for an official attempt video? I measured it and it is dead on 1" x 1.5" x 3", the same virtually as the official GHP. Thanks! 👊🏻

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5 minutes ago, degradated said:

Question for Wade mainly unless anyone else knows... I'm not sure if it has been asked (I apologize for the redundancy if so), but if we would still like to certify on a 7, 8 or 9 but can't get our hands on a real GHP set block, could the Cannon set block be used as a substitute for an official attempt video? I measured it and it is dead on 1" x 1.5" x 3", the same virtually as the official GHP. Thanks! 👊🏻

I asked this question to Wade in 2022. He said, “At this time I would say no just to keep things standard. If there is a lot of people calling for this we could change the rules.”

So maybe he will weigh in because any future with the GHP cert will require an update anyway. I feel any properly measured block should be allowed. It’s been difficult to get an official block for years. 

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Just now, Cannon said:

I asked this question to Wade in 2022. He said, “At this time I would say no just to keep things standard. If there is a lot of people calling for this we could change the rules.”

So maybe he will weigh in because any future with the GHP cert will require an update anyway. I feel any properly measured block should be allowed. It’s been difficult to get an official block for years. 

Cool, thanks for your input Matt! I sure hope he changes his mind on the matter. Maybe some other gripsters could chime in and request that substitutions are allowed given the scarcity of the real one. The more the merrier, to prove to Mr. Gillingham that the demand is high. In addition, since the company has no plans to move forward, I think it would be fair to allow substitutions as long as the gripper itself is legit.

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On 3/21/2024 at 9:19 AM, degradated said:

Cool, thanks for your input Matt! I sure hope he changes his mind on the matter. Maybe some other gripsters could chime in and request that substitutions are allowed given the scarcity of the real one. The more the merrier, to prove to Mr. Gillingham that the demand is high. In addition, since the company has no plans to move forward, I think it would be fair to allow substitutions as long as the gripper itself is legit.

The only real reason to have an active cert process is for promotion of products to buy to use for it, & it's basically free advertising. With nothing for GHP to sell, any more cert judging/posting videos etc would all be volunteer work. They were already having trouble with keeping GHP profitable, so I don't see why they would want to do free work now, after the business closed due to not making enough money.

There were people waiting upto 6 months to hear back about their cert attempts previously, that I'm aware of. I don't think with the company closed, the old cert system is going to be any more active than it was while the company was actually running and selling things.

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1 minute ago, C8Myotome said:

The only real reason to have an active cert process is for promotion of products to buy to use for it, & it's basically free advertising. With nothing for GHP to sell, any more cert judging/posting videos etc would all be volunteer work. They were already having trouble with keeping GHP profitable, so I don't see why they would want to do free work now, after the business closed due to not making enough money.

There were people waiting upto 6 months to hear back about their cert attempts previously, that I'm aware of. I don't think with the company closed, the old cert system is going to be any more active than it was while the company was actually running and selling things.

Dang, you make a good point. It's all up to Wade, I suppose, if certs will continue to take place and be recognized.

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21 minutes ago, degradated said:

Dang, you make a good point. It's all up to Wade, I suppose, if certs will continue to take place and be recognized.

I'd be bummed about missing out too, it was a great entry level cert with an easy format where you got unlimited attempts, however it could have benefited from more strict rules as shown via pasta man conning it

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4 minutes ago, C8Myotome said:

I'd be bummed about missing out too, it was a great entry level cert with an easy format where you got unlimited attempts, however it could have benefited from more strict rules as shown via pasta man conning it

Totally bummed... Has it been established exactly how Tiz altered the GHP cert submission vids?

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20 minutes ago, degradated said:

Totally bummed... Has it been established exactly how Tiz altered the GHP cert submission vids?

Yes, he took Tough Ape chinese springs that look bright silver in color, and put those into ghp/coc handles.

Because these are narrow 50 lb springs, to get the GHP spread measurement, he could have easily just bent the spring outwards just enough to be in the same specificiation range as he would have seen in other approved cert videos. He strategically only measured the spread before the close, and not after, which would have revealed how narrow the Tough Ape spring really was after it relapsed a bit from being bent outward I would figure. As far as spring coil diameter measurement, I'm not sure how thick those springs are but it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world to figure out how to fudge either, or maybe they're similarly thick.

He also usually used 2 hands to open the gripper and then get it away/hidden from camera as soon as possible to probably hide how much narrower the spring was after being closed (because he probably bent all these outward too to try to make them look like wide ghp/coc).

Faking the GHP8, GHP9 and probably also GHP7 certs was basically just practice for faking the coc 3.5 cert, he did the same spring swap and duped people multiple times which probably gave him the confidence to fake a 3.5 cert as well, the only things he did additionally were to repackage the fake gripper into CoC packaging which dubya showed is not impossible to make look convincing, then what he got caught with was the amazon barcode UPC sticker on the pack of the package, which Ironmind used as evidence to show it was not the same gripper they sent him, and also the packing tape was crinkled showing the package had been opened and resealed with the same tape.

I know for a fact it was tough ape springs as there is an instagram account (still active) which he and his friend were running, I know this for 100% fact because someone sent me voice clips coming from this account that were one million percent pasta man himself, before anyone knew who he was he was reaching out to elite gripsters to ask for advice about what kind of adjustable gripper they would want to buy as he claimed to have springs and handles and was planning to make grippers to sell, i believe he made an rgc machine too, but anyways this same instagram account has (and still has) pictures of coc grippers and tough ape grippers shown side by side in the same picture, the same account pasta man was sending voice messages from without revealing his name specifically on it. When he later started posting training videos, it was from a different account that was associated with his name. So there is cold hard evidence before he even tried to make a name for himself in training, he was taking apart, building grippers and modifying them which he purposely never mentioned anything of either publicly, or for example with me either, during the probably hundreds of DMs he sent me during the time I talked to him and then started giving him the slow fade once he started trying to fake being superhuman with his godly vegetarian strength from his magical programming

I assume everything he has done is fake. I'd guess the springs he used for 3.5 and GHP9 type certs were probably like 200, 250 or 300 lb spring difficulty level which is not exactly godly to be able to close or even ccs, but with 3.5 or ghp8/ghp9 handles glued onto them he tricked people into thinking it was something impressive.

Similarly in his fake coc 3.5 cert video he likely bent the spring to have a wider spread to fit in the coc packaging, or to make it look like a 3.5, then after his repeated closes you can tell the spring got significantly narrower after each close, i forget the figure but it was probably at least 1 cm+ narrower, to the point where the spring was barely opening up wide enough to be able to fit the credit card though it; you could see how relaxed his hands were as well.

If he did 1 3.5 CCS and took the fake cert he probably would have had more trouble getting caught, but he got REALLY as greedy as possible and did a triple, then a double, to the point where the card could barely fit through the handles which is pretty typical for trying to do ccs with a 50 lb gripper

And then there's all the fake blob and loading pin stuff, but I really only paid attention to the gripper stuff.

100% fake

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Very thorough explanation... Thanks!

It's sad some of the great lengths some demented people will go to "prove themselves" in the world. I'm glad his name was removed from the IM 3.5 list at least.

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