GripScrub Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Ive read through the pinned topics and theres alot of info out there. The one question i keep coming back to is which begginer bending kit to buy? Ive looked at the ironmind bending bag, which seems a great deal. Imps, a bag for all the bending stock and lots of low level stuff to bend. FBBC begginer bending bag looks like a great deal too, just without alot of knowledge on the hardness of different size bars unsure how to know which way to progress. Ive also looked at the Silvis Ninja Nail beginner kit, also seems a pretty good value. Also does just starting out bending in IMPs only out a bad idea? Should i get a set of Wraps from FBBC as well? Any suggestions on which would be best would be awesome. Thanks, and sorry if i missed this information somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I started with Jedd's bending book. Lots of good info and has a bending progression in it. As for stock I'll let others comment as I have a biased opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ Livesey Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Make a goal. What's your goal. Want the red Nail? Want the KOAB? Want the edgin? FBBC makes a bag that will caiter specifically to that goal. Want to just learn some basics and go from there? Hit Home Depot or lowes and grab some garbage steel to practice on. My honest opinion, Go with fbbc bags. The IronMind bag will not, I repeat will not get you to the red nail. The jump from the blue to the red is impossible without some fillers in there. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos1 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 There's a ton more information out there that covers this. But, as a beginning bender, all you really need is a pair of IMPs and 3/16 stock (round and square -- CRS) and some 1/4" rods (round and square). Once you plow through that, cut at 6-7" lengths, you will know where you stand and if you want to invest more time and money. I wouldn't buy too much 3/16 stock as it becomes really easy quickly as your technique gets dialed in. If you decide you are going to contine, there are a ton of directions to go in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripScrub Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 There's a ton more information out there that covers this. But, as a beginning bender, all you really need is a pair of IMPs and 3/16 stock (round and square -- CRS) and some 1/4" rods (round and square). Once you plow through that, cut at 6-7" lengths, you will know where you stand and if you want to invest more time and money. I wouldn't buy too much 3/16 stock as it becomes really easy quickly as your technique gets dialed in. If you decide you are going to contine, there are a ton of directions to go in. Awesome this was pretty much what i was looking for. Wow was that some fast responses, haha. Thanks all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Do what these guys say to the letter. Also only bend in IMP singles for a while, it will be useful starting off that way trust me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony C. Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 -Bend EXCLUSIVELY in single IMP's until you reach the red nail. -Pick a goal and train EXCLUSIVELY with that length of steel. -Drill Rod man, drill rod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jack Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Agreed on all those advising for only bending in single IM pads until you get to an elite level. This will help your progress greatly. In my opinion, until you get to the elite level above a red nail, I think that bending breaks down as follows: 50% technique, 30% mental, and 20% strength. Never, ever underestimate the importance of the mental part of bending. It's just steel and it will bend if you are tougher and have your technique down. You are an animal that will destroy whatever is in your hands. If you progressively move through the bars as outlined countless times on here, you will know when you are ready to bend a Red Nail or Bastard. And your perceived strength will play the smallest part in most cases. Also, when starting out,I think becoming proficient in all styles of bending will only make each one stronger in different areas. Then you can see which style has the most potential for you strength and technique-wise This is something that I have always needed to focus more on when healthy. Good luck and enjoy. P.S. Read every bending post from EJ and Tommy. This will get you ahead of the game quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richcottrell Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Thank you everyone for adding to this thread.. I was lucky just enough today to cut my hand with a pull saw while cutting some tree branches. It went right through my work glove, but no stitches were needed. I ended up getting the finger “glued”. God I wish I could buy some of that medical grade liquid nails! Actually, I would have self dressed the cut, but I had no idea when I got a tetanus shot last. This hand saw sits in the shed all year, so I did not want to mess around. I say I am lucky as I could have cut myself much worst. Glad i had gloves on, but it never pays to rush with hand tools. Very stupid of me! I should have know better. Also, I am lucky, as I just started to try to bend steel this last month, and was only using 1/4" [7" and 6.5" lengths] in leather singles from FBBC. From reading this tread, and other resources, that too is stupid of me. I now know better. This cut will force me to take some days off from bending, and the above info has me re-evaluating what the hell I am doing. This is a good time to reload, and get some lighter stock. When I hit it again, I will switch over to the Iron-Mind wraps. Singles baby! Thanks guys, rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ Livesey Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Wraps were a very touchy subject for many many years. Just until recently the majority of hobby benders will agree that smaller wraps are better. Of course I agree. The most popular are IMPs and battlefield wraps. Both are of the same material but Battlefield wraps are a little thicker. The majority of the things I bend are in those two wraps. 1. They make you "feel" the steel and how it moves 2. Makes callouses in the right spots 3. Gets you used to the mass amounts of pain associated with bending 4. Gets you mentally tough (this is huge with bending) 5. Makes your tendons, bones and muscles incredibly strong and resilient. 6. Smaller the wraps, bigger the bend more impressive IMO 7. Does not allow you to rely or manipulate the wraps for leverage, keeps the bend pure Well for every positive there is a negative 1. Unbelievably painful 2. Skin tears like nothing else 3. Longer time needed to heal 4. Did I mention painful? Your body will break or adapt. But the key is to build a good base so you don't break but adapt. Edited July 30, 2015 by EJ Livesey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Cabrera Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Glad your gettin into bending Rich! I wish you a fun and healthy journey! Ill give you one tip; http://az-grip.com/calibration.php The calibrations on the site are very good for your estimates, just be mindful that steel always varies. Steel variation has driven me nuts in the past lol. But othrr than mostly mild variations in steel toughness, the site will surely make progressing much simpler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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