Jedd Johnson Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Several of us have been working on developing an updated list of qualifications for our US Nationals / North American Championship based upon the weight classes introduced this year. Also, we expanded the events that would count for qualification as well as the wild card feats. Aside from myself, Brent Barbe, Chris Rice, Matt Cannon and Sean Dockery contributed to the list in various ways, and there may have been others that I am not aware of. Thanks to those who assisted. I welcome any questions you might have regarding the list. Thanks, Jedd = = = = = = = = =Qualification Chance 1: Athletes who: Total Two Handed Elite in their weight class(three lift total for grippers, axle, 2HP): 120k - 840120k - 800105k - 77093k - 73083k - 69074k - 64066k - 58559k - 530 Total One Handed Elite in their weight class(three lift total for grippers, 1 Handed axle, 1HP): 120k+ - 507 120k - 487 105k - 472 93k - 452 83k - 432 74k - 407 66k - 380 59k - 352 Finish in the top 3 out of 5 in their weight class in a NAGS-sanctioned contest. Or, top 6 if there are 10 or more athletes in a given weight class. Finish in the top position of their weight class (less than 5 competitors) in a NAGS-sanctioned contest Finish in the top 20 overall for World’s Strongest Hands, King Kong, or other multi-cite mega comp.Qualification Chance 2: Athletes can also qualify for Nationals by completing 3 of the following feats during the 2012 – 2013 season in NAGS-sanctioned contests or through video submission. (Can occur during multiple contests - do not have to all be at the same contest)1″ Vertical Bar: 59k: 250lbs, 66k: 260lbs, 74k: 270lbs:, 83k: 280lbs, 93k: 290lbs, 105k: 310lbs, 120k: 320lbs, 120+: 330lbs2″ FBBC Vertical Bar: 59k: 180lbs, 66k: 190lbs, 74k: 200lbs:, 83k: 210lbs, 93k: 220lbs, 105k: 230lbs, 120k: 240lbs, 120+: 250lbsGripper: Close Level 13 Gold on the Vulcan or 150# Gripper Close (parallel or 20-mm Block Set)Bending (Reverse Style, 40 degrees within 30 seconds, preferable with wraps that will pass through a 1.25" hole) Grade 5×6″ bolt, Wrist Developer Level 5 GoldIronMind Axle Deadlift: 59k: 210lbs, 66k: 230lbs, 74k: 250lbs:, 83k: 270lbs, 93k: 290lbs, 105k: 310lbs, 120k: 330lbs, 120+: 350lbs One Handed IronMind Axle Deadlift: 59k: 94lbs, 66k: 103lbs, 74k: 112lbs:, 83k: 121lbs, 93k: 130lbs, 105k: 139lbs, 120k: 148lbs, 120+: 157lbsEuro Two Hands Pinch: – 59k: 140lbs, 66k: 170lbs, 74k: 180lbs:, 83k: 190lbs, 93k: 200lbs, 105k: 210lbs, 120k: 220lbs, 120+: 230lbs Euro One Hand Pinch: – 59k: 63lbs, 66k: 76lbs, 74k: 81lbs:, 83k: 85lbs, 93k: 90lbs, 105k: 94lbs, 120k: 99lbs, 120+: 103lbsOne Hand Deadlift on Olympic / Powerlifting Bar: 59k: 180lbs, 66k: 190lbs, 74k: 200lbs:, 83k: 210lbs, 93k: 220lbs, 105k: 230lbs, 120k: 240lbs, 120+: 250lbsBlock Weights: 59k: 40-lb Hex, 66k: 40-lb Hex, 74k: 45-lb Hex, 83k: 45-lb Hex, 93k: 45-lb Blob, 105k: 45-lb Blob, 120k: 50-lb Blob, 120+: 50-lb Blob Inverted Hex Dumbbell Deadlift (fingers or thumb not permitted inside print): 59k: 40-lb Hex, 66k: 40-lb Hex, 74k: 45-lb Hex, 83k: 45-lb Hex, 93k: 50-lb Hex, 105k: 50-lb Hex, 120k: 55-lb Hex, 120+: 55-lb HexRolling Thunder: 59k: 150lbs, 66k: 160lbs, 74k: 170lbs:, 83k: 180lbs, 93k: 190lbs, 105k: 200lbs, 120k: 210lbs, 120+: 220lbsPlate Pinching (One Hand) 59k: 2-35's, 66k: 2-35's, 74k: 2-35's, 83k: 2-35's, 93k: 2-35's, 105k: 2-45's, 120k: 2-45's, 120+: 2-45's Hub lifts: 59k: 35lbs, 66k: 35lbs, 74k: 45lbs, 83k: 45lbs, 93k: 45lbs, 105k: 45lbs, 120k: 45lbs, 120k+: 45lbs Front lift with a coin to 18” platform. Handle must be at least 31”. 59k: 6lb, 66k: 6lb, 74k: 6lb, 83k: 8lb, 93k: 8lb, 105k: 8lb, 120k: 8lb, 120+: 10lb Face lever. Handle must be at least 31” and the lift must be reasonably strict. 59k: 10lbs, 66k: 10lbs, 74k: 12lbs:, 83k: 12lbs, 93k: 12lbs, 105k: 16lbs, 120k: 16lbs, 120+: 16lbs Qualification Chance 3:Complete any of the following Certifications during the 2012 – 2013 Grip season Certify for IronMind Captain of Crush (#3 or #3.5) Certify for IronMind Red Nail Roster Certify as Gripboard Mash Monster 1 or higherQualification Chance 4:Complete any one of the following Wild Card feats during the 2012 – 2013 season in NAGS-sanctioned contests. Close #4 Gripper with parallel set or wider (choker included) Lift the Inch Replica Dumbbell Break US Record in Two Hands Pinch for their weight class Break US Record in 1-inch Vertical Bar (LGC Standard or FBBC Standard) for their weight class Break US Record in 2-inch Vertical Bar (FBBC Standard) for their weight class Break US Record in the Axle Deadlift for their weight classNotes: Video submission for lifts will be accepted, and youtube video links can be sent to Andrew Durniat and Jedd Johnson for review. In addition, many of these standards are not directly tracked, so the athlete is asked to notify Andrew Durniat, Jedd Johnson, or another NAGS committee member once they attain these goals. The above lifts are a starting point. If you are promoting a competition please contact us so that qualifying standards can be established ahead of time. Breaking of a US Record must happen in a competition format. Once you have qualified for and competed in NAGS Championships you will automatically be qualified for the following year. = = = = = = = = *Jedd edited some things: 9/30/12. Had a date wrong and added video submission permitted near the top of the document as well. = = = = = = = = 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thanks for getting this done early so that clear goals can be set for the next year. One question: Can you elaborate on the video submissions? Does this mean that you can video yourself performing three of the feats in Qualification Chance #2, and these could be done outside of a NAGS-sanctioned contest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba29 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 wow, that should open it up to many more people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 yes, the 3 lifts from section 2 can be submitted by video as well as comp lifts. after discussion it was decided we'd give this a try. people are busy, can't always travel, etc. also, as Andrew Durniat said to me while discussing it,"let them fake a lift. they can show up and look stupid while I use the money for prizes." so, we'll be trying it out to see how the video submissions work. get after it, get qualified, compete with the best in the country. very simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 yes, the 3 lifts from section 2 can be submitted by video as well as comp lifts. after discussion it was decided we'd give this a try. people are busy, can't always travel, etc. also, as Andrew Durniat said to me while discussing it,"let them fake a lift. they can show up and look stupid while I use the money for prizes." so, we'll be trying it out to see how the video submissions work. get after it, get qualified, compete with the best in the country. very simple. Thanks Brent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwm Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Jedd - thanks for posting this so early!!! Now I know what I've got to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acorn Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Jedder, Did you get this up somewhere on the gripsport.org site yet? - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 no, it's not been updated yet. Jedder, Did you get this up somewhere on the gripsport.org site yet? - Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climber511 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Plate Pinching (One Hand) 59k: 2-35's, 66k: 2-35's, 74k: 2-35's, 83k: 280lbs, 93k: 2-35's, 105k: 2-45's, 120k: 2-45's, 120+: 2-45's Might be a typo in here for the 83K class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 fixed Plate Pinching (One Hand) 59k: 2-35's, 66k: 2-35's, 74k: 2-35's, 83k: 280lbs, 93k: 2-35's, 105k: 2-45's, 120k: 2-45's, 120+: 2-45's Might be a typo in here for the 83K class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Plate Pinching (One Hand) 59k: 2-35's, 66k: 2-35's, 74k: 2-35's, 83k: 280lbs, 93k: 2-35's, 105k: 2-45's, 120k: 2-45's, 120+: 2-45's Might be a typo in here for the 83K class Chris, you found it again. I scanned it and could not find it. The numbers just run together. I will edit it above. Scratch that - Brent already got it. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel reinard Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Awesome work guys. That looks great. This may have been covered elsewhere but how do women qualify for Nats? Is it auto qual if they compete in a santioned grip event? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Well it would appear I qualify then. I'll see you all at the next nationals as a competitor again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 you will have to make the lifts in a comp,get the certs, or submit by video. just to be clear. Well it would appear I qualify then. I'll see you all at the next nationals as a competitor again. women do not have qualifiying standards since the field is so small. Awesome work guys. That looks great. This may have been covered elsewhere but how do women qualify for Nats? Is it auto qual if they compete in a santioned grip event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTGlass Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I think this was a smart move for the long haul, but I am curious- Was there anyone who was prepared to show up and lift who was not qualified, who spoke up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 there were a couple of people who said the were trying to get in during the immediate period leading up. also, if you knew you couldn't make those lifts because you weight 148# you might not have even spoken up. hopefully getting these standards out now, as well as accepting video submissions, will drive attendance for next year. I think this was a smart move for the long haul, but I am curious- Was there anyone who was prepared to show up and lift who was not qualified, who spoke up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba29 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) I think this was a smart move for the long haul, but I am curious- Was there anyone who was prepared to show up and lift who was not qualified, who spoke up? here are 2 suggestions made after jedd said he was surprised by the lack of people who said they were going to compete at nationals: Chez, on 29 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said: maybe think about lowering the qualifying lifts that can be submitted via video. Might be some people who want to go but just can't qualify. Just an idea. (my response was) or have qualifying tiers based on weight classes. some of the qualifying lifts are relatively easy for a 120+ guy verse a 73k guy. Appears they definitely listened. Where are nationals next year? Edited July 18, 2012 by bubba29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andurniat Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Appears they definitely listened. Where are nationals next year? Nationals is returning to Durniat Strength in Wooster, Ohio.... I believe it will again be the 2nd Saturday in June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba29 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Appears they definitely listened. Where are nationals next year? Nationals is returning to Durniat Strength in Wooster, Ohio.... I believe it will again be the 2nd Saturday in June. good to hear. i better qualify because i booked my plane tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 good to hear. i better qualify because i booked my plane tickets. awesome. with a year to work you should have no trouble bringing up enough lifts to get qualified. you will not regret going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbe705 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 something to keep in mind is that within a very short time we have gone from no nationals to a recognized national championship. no devisions to the open and elite splits. no weight classes to 8 different weight classes. no qualifications needed for nats to qualifing required. a lot of work done in a very small amount of time. with all of that in mind we made need to tweak things as we go. for instance, we really have no data on lighter weight lifters compared to the heavies. this will change over time and will probably require us to massage some things as we go. patience ans suggestions will help keep things progressing as smoothly as they have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 something to keep in mind is that within a very short time we have gone from no nationals to a recognized national championship. no devisions to the open and elite splits. no weight classes to 8 different weight classes. no qualifications needed for nats to qualifing required. a lot of work done in a very small amount of time. with all of that in mind we made need to tweak things as we go. for instance, we really have no data on lighter weight lifters compared to the heavies. this will change over time and will probably require us to massage some things as we go. patience ans suggestions will help keep things progressing as smoothly as they have been. Great Points. Thanks Brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 In Qualification Chance #2: Is the grade 5 x 6" hex bolt a 1/4" bolt? What kind of pads are allowed? DO, DU, and Reverse are all allowed, I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Johnson Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 In Qualification Chance #2: Is the grade 5 x 6" hex bolt a 1/4" bolt? What kind of pads are allowed? DO, DU, and Reverse are all allowed, I assume? Yes, 1/4 inch Grade 5. Wraps have not been decided. The standard is tight wrap passed through a 1.25-inch hole for suede. I would go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broly Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 In Qualification Chance #2: Is the grade 5 x 6" hex bolt a 1/4" bolt? What kind of pads are allowed? DO, DU, and Reverse are all allowed, I assume? Yes, 1/4 inch Grade 5. Wraps have not been decided. The standard is tight wrap passed through a 1.25-inch hole for suede. I would go with that. Sorry If I'm still not understanding but can it be any bending style as Jchap was asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.