Anthony C. Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Hello all, Noob question...with a brand new rolling thunder handle, is it best to not use chalk and instead use liquid grip? I have read that this is better than using chalk but I'm not sure if that was only with the old model RT. Thank you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Chalk is great. Just don't use too much of it. I have as new model and use it every day. (Increasing the work capacity in my hands.) As long as you chalk your hand and not the RT, you should be good for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrs Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 My forearms are sometimes sore for 4 days after using this equipment. I've noticed it destroys your gripper and hub if you do it first in the same workout so I'd advise to work it in slow but I'm no expert on it either. Good luck bud! I look forward to seeing your progress in the logs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony C. Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Thanks for the words guys! I'm gonna take it easy on it and see what I can do with this sucker. Chalk it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 High numbers on RT go farther in terms of strength than hub or grippers IMO. Just chalk enough to keep your hands dry but don't chalk the RT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshW Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Maybe ask PeterSweden he's very much into his rolling thunder routines buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Chalk makes it slip! A small amount to get the moist off is Oki but dont chalk up! Also you can kill the spin on the handle if you gunk it up with chalk Edited June 29, 2014 by PeterSweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Ruby Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Chalk makes it slip! A small amount to get the moist off is Oki but dont chalk up! Also you can kill the spin on the handle if you gunk it up with chalk This Its similar to pinch events too much chalk makes the lift a lot harder. I know the world record holder has a towel to wipe down the handle between attempts also since chalk can make it slip. I know juha has mentioned that brand new handles can differ wildly also not to mention the environment-weather- makes a big difference also. So just focus on getting stronger and don't worry too much about what others might have lifted in your weight class. I think higher reps on the rolling thunder helps more then going for big lifts on it all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpGrip Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 what kind of program do all yal use for the rolling thunder i seem to be in a plateau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Like Stephen said; Do higher reps. I start my programs at ~75% of my current 1rm. warmup to one all out set; 6@50% 4@60% 2@65%-70% --- 1xMax reps@75% Next session I do the same but every session i increase the maxset weight by 5 lbs. I do this for 8-12 weeks. Then I take ~one week of rest before maxing out. Often times I have to Do two maxweeks in a row to get the real max. Remember to train your body before doing grip. Always. With squats for exempel. And also remember to think about squeezing the RT hard. Dont just hold it static. Kill it! This isnt something Ive dreamt up hoping it will work. This is done by atleast 3-4 athletes that pull over 200 lbs easy and Im about to join that crew any day now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Like Stephen said; Do higher reps. I start my programs at ~75% of my current 1rm. warmup to one all out set; 6@50% 4@60% 2@65%-70% --- 1xMax reps@75% Next session I do the same but every session i increase the maxset weight by 5 lbs. I do this for 8-12 weeks. Then I take ~one week of rest before maxing out. Often times I have to Do two maxweeks in a row to get the real max. Remember to train your body before doing grip. Always. With squats for exempel. And also remember to think about squeezing the RT hard. Dont just hold it static. Kill it! This isnt something Ive dreamt up hoping it will work. This is done by atleast 3-4 athletes that pull over 200 lbs easy and Im about to join that crew any day now. Solid advice bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Thanks man! This approach worked for you too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvance Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I don't do a lot of RT but for the times I did, I got good results working in the 6-10 rep range and slowly increasing the working weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony C. Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Great advice in here, thank you guys! I want to get better on this lift as i'd love to one day get crushed to dust. I trained with it yesterday and let's just say I have a long way to go before I'm pulling 200 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I too want to gét the CTD on vid When I can pull 20kg on the hub I'll get it. TNS coc2 both hands and then rip the RT and hub so fast and hard that the carabeener snaps:) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 RT also helped me get stronger on wider sets on grippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metacarpal Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Anybody have an opinion on reps vs holds/over-crushes? For example it would seem that a 10-15 sec hold would have the same time under tension as ~10 reps, but without the hassle of re-gripping and/or taxing non-grip related muscles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anybody have an opinion on reps vs holds/over-crushes? For example it would seem that a 10-15 sec hold would have the same time under tension as ~10 reps, but without the hassle of re-gripping and/or taxing non-grip related muscles. Consider that when doing a hold, the RT will slide into a more disadvantageous position as the time increases. Although the time under tension is the same, when doing reps with a regrip your time spent will be in your stronger positions. That being considered, holds do seem to have a place in training. I'm currently experimenting with long holds for reps every single day with 3/4 of my max. I'm trying to increase strength by simulating a taxing manual job. We'll see if it does anything in a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwm Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm trying to increase strength by simulating a taxing manual job. We'll see if it does anything in a month. Gripping bags of coffee beans at starbucks is not a taxing manual job? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm trying to increase strength by simulating a taxing manual job. We'll see if it does anything in a month. Gripping bags of coffee beans at starbucks is not a taxing manual job? I'm trying to increase strength by simulating a taxing manual job. We'll see if it does anything in a month. Gripping bags of coffee beans at starbucks is not a taxing manual job? You've got a great memory Martin! And nope. I just sit around and sip cappuccinos all day 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpGrip Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) thanks for the great advice guys i will try that the only program i have done with the rolling thunder was training twice a week doing 9sec holds for5 sets and then the other day doing 18 sec holds for 5 sets Edited July 1, 2014 by ImpGrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Little bit of chalk and I rub my hands together creating friction. Makes them kind of tacky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubgeezer Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Back on the chalk versus no chalk issue, I am not sure I have ever seen such a wide variety of habits as exists with the RT. Felix, large hands, chalks like crazy. Alex, average hands, obsessively wipes the device with his personal rag he carries with him. There is a photo of me in the latest MILO suspiciously inspecting his rag at the Fit Expo. It was just a rag, nothing unusual about it. I go into the bathroom and rinse my hands with water, no soap, and dry them off before I start. HATE chalk on the RT. In competitions, it is frustrating, because there is chalk residue on the device, so you can't control it. I think it is a very personal thing for which it is impossible to make the call for anyone else. Experiment and see what works best for you. Whenever I was shooting for a garage PR, I would go in the house and run my hands through water. I think I even carried a bottle of water with me to a contest once and poured some on my hands, dried off with a towel before I pulled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSweden Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Back on the chalk versus no chalk issue, I am not sure I have ever seen such a wide variety of habits as exists with the RT. Felix, large hands, chalks like crazy. Alex, average hands, obsessively wipes the device with his personal rag he carries with him. There is a photo of me in the latest MILO suspiciously inspecting his rag at the Fit Expo. It was just a rag, nothing unusual about it. I go into the bathroom and rinse my hands with water, no soap, and dry them off before I start. HATE chalk on the RT. In competitions, it is frustrating, because there is chalk residue on the device, so you can't control it. I think it is a very personal thing for which it is impossible to make the call for anyone else. Experiment and see what works best for you. Whenever I was shooting for a garage PR, I would go in the house and run my hands through water. I think I even carried a bottle of water with me to a contest once and poured some on my hands, dried off with a towel before I pulled. This ^^ sound advice. Alittle Chris Rice'ish advice Whats your best pull on the RT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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