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Finally decided to get around to listing my rated grippers:

BBSA 5/8 - 95 Unknown Rater

RB160 - 105 Jedd

COC2 - 110 Ben

GHP5 - 113 Cannon

BBSM - 117 Chris Rice

BBSM - 122 Cannon

RB210 - 124.8 Jedd

COC2.5 - 126 Cannon

COC2.5 - 129 Jedd

COC2.5 - 130 Ben

BBSM - 133 Cannon

RB260 - 137.2 Jedd

GHP6 - 137.9 Jedd

RB240 - 139.8 Jedd

BBGM - 142 Aaron C.

COC3 - 145 Cannon

FBBCP1 - 148.3 Jedd

COC3 - 150 Cannon

COC3 - 154 Ben

BBE - 165 Ben

MM1/MM2 Error stamp - 172 Cannon

BBE - 182 Cannon

Nice progression in the COC # 2 to # 3 range.

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Finally decided to get around to listing my rated grippers:

BBSA 5/8 - 95 Unknown Rater

RB160 - 105 Jedd

COC2 - 110 Ben

GHP5 - 113 Cannon

BBSM - 117 Chris Rice

BBSM - 122 Cannon

RB210 - 124.8 Jedd

COC2.5 - 126 Cannon

COC2.5 - 129 Jedd

COC2.5 - 130 Ben

BBSM - 133 Cannon

RB260 - 137.2 Jedd

GHP6 - 137.9 Jedd

RB240 - 139.8 Jedd

BBGM - 142 Aaron C.

COC3 - 145 Cannon

FBBCP1 - 148.3 Jedd

COC3 - 150 Cannon

COC3 - 154 Ben

BBE - 165 Ben

MM1/MM2 Error stamp - 172 Cannon

BBE - 182 Cannon

Nice progression in the COC # 2 to # 3 range.

It took a while. I tried my best to keep all of them between 2-4 pound jumps. Now I need to do the same between 154-182. Luckily I already have a Megalodon and unrated RB300 that may fall in that range. Time to ask around and to get some more rated.

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This area is not easy to cover. But with time you will get them.

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Figured i'll throw my hat in the ring...All were rated using the digital crane scale method on a rig I built recently..All Springs were clean and oiled followed by a few dozen chest crushes before rating...A couple of them were rated by Cannon Power Works which i checked against my own ratings to see how accurate my setup was at this point...Might build a revised version in the near future...My collection thus far:

2004 Mfg. IM COC 1 (non COC stamped, black spring) - 79

2004 Mfg. IM COC 2 (non COC stamped,black spring) - 109

IM COC 2.5 - 125

GHP 6 - 126

BBSM - 127 (CPW=127)

IM COC 2.5 - 130

GHP 6 - 131

BBSM - 136

BBSM - 137

IM COC 3 - 145

BBGM - 147

IM COC 3 - 148

IM COC 3 - 152

CPW Spectrum RB 300N - 153 (CPW=154)

2004 Mfg. IM COC 3 (Non COC stamped, Black Spring) - 155

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heres my grip collection

60 Trainer

70 #0.5

80 #1

85 #1.5

90 Atomgripz 3 band knurl

94 Filed GHP4

95 Atomgripz 3 band knurl

96 RB160 Spectrum (CPW 97)

? Filed #2 couldn't rate

107 #2

113 GHP5

118 RB240N Spectrum (CPW 119)

126 #2.5

128 GHP6 (Sam Radford 130)

129 RB210 (Sam Radford 130)

133 SM (CPW 133)

136 GHP6 (CPW 136)

139 #3

143 #3

146 RB300N Spectrum (CPW 146)

148 #3

149 GHP7 (Sam Radford 150)

151 #3 (CPW 153)

156 #3

157 GM (CPW 161)

163 Elite EXT (CPW 165)

175 Atomgripz 4 band knurl

176 #3.5

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Just received my GHP 4 today and my 134 GHP 6 is on the way :

96 GHP 4

113 GHP 5

116 Master

125 #2.5

132 #2.5

134 GHP 6

148 #3

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heres my grip collection

60 Trainer

70 #0.5

80 #1

85 #1.5

90 Atomgripz 3 band knurl

94 Filed GHP4

95 Atomgripz 3 band knurl

96 RB160 Spectrum (CPW 97)

? Filed #2 couldn't rate

107 #2

113 GHP5

118 RB240N Spectrum (CPW 119)

126 #2.5

128 GHP6 (Sam Radford 130)

129 RB210 (Sam Radford 130)

133 SM (CPW 133)

136 GHP6 (CPW 136)

139 #3

143 #3

146 RB300N Spectrum (CPW 146)

148 #3

149 GHP7 (Sam Radford 150)

151 #3 (CPW 153)

156 #3

157 GM (CPW 161)

163 Elite EXT (CPW 165)

175 Atomgripz 4 band knurl

176 #3.5

Wow! Your #3 grippers hit a wide area. Great collection, man.

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Just received my GHP 4 today and my 134 GHP 6 is on the way :

96 GHP 4

113 GHP 5

116 Master

125 #2.5

132 #2.5

134 GHP 6

148 #3

Do you notice a big difference between your 2 x2.5 grippers? How much of a difference does that 7 pounds make to the close? Sweet collection of grippers.

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Must post my (small) updated grippers collection as well.. All rated by CPW.

#1

HG200

109 #2

#2.5 (feels like ~#123)

123 SM

127 SM

134 GHP6

140 RB240

148 #3

150 GM

#3 (feel like ~#153)

160 #3

187 E

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5+ pounds difference can make a big difference between a close or not.

Must post my (small) updated grippers collection as well.. All rated by CPW.

#1

HG200

109 #2

#2.5 (feels like ~#123)

123 SM

127 SM

134 GHP6

140 RB240

148 #3

150 GM

#3 (feel like ~#153)

160 #3

187 E

Nice spread! Very nice collection.

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Just received my GHP 4 today and my 134 GHP 6 is on the way :

96 GHP 4

113 GHP 5

116 Master

125 #2.5

132 #2.5

134 GHP 6

148 #3

Do you notice a big difference between your 2 x2.5 grippers? How much of a difference does that 7 pounds make to the close? Sweet collection of grippers.

I just use them for heavy negs right now, but the gap is noticeable.

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I'm new here so apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere.

From the little reading I've done, IM spring manufacturing/calibration has become more accurate over time and grippers vary far less than they used to. Reading RGC ratings here, I'm not sure whether poundage variance is simply because they're old models or if the upper/lower bounds still hold true.

Is there any data on gripper variance for those produced in 2014/2015? (or whenever they started producing the latest variants).

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I'm new here so apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere.

From the little reading I've done, IM spring manufacturing/calibration has become more accurate over time and grippers vary far less than they used to. Reading RGC ratings here, I'm not sure whether poundage variance is simply because they're old models or if the upper/lower bounds still hold true.

Is there any data on gripper variance for those produced in 2014/2015? (or whenever they started producing the latest variants).

Yes, here: http://cannonpowerworks.com/pages/grip-strength-ratings-data

Those ratings are for all new grippers out of the package and only 2012 through present. IronMind has not changed their "recipe" in that timeframe as far as I know (same GR8 springs the whole time is what I mean). That should give you an indication of how the grippers vary as it relates to the Rating Service. Remember there are variables to the Rating Service as well and it only measures 1 thing about the gripper. But, your question was about ratings after all, so I feel the chart is applicable.

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I'm new here so apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere.

From the little reading I've done, IM spring manufacturing/calibration has become more accurate over time and grippers vary far less than they used to. Reading RGC ratings here, I'm not sure whether poundage variance is simply because they're old models or if the upper/lower bounds still hold true.

Is there any data on gripper variance for those produced in 2014/2015? (or whenever they started producing the latest variants).

Yes, here: http://cannonpowerworks.com/pages/grip-strength-ratings-data

Those ratings are for all new grippers out of the package and only 2012 through present. IronMind has not changed their "recipe" in that timeframe as far as I know (same GR8 springs the whole time is what I mean). That should give you an indication of how the grippers vary as it relates to the Rating Service. Remember there are variables to the Rating Service as well and it only measures 1 thing about the gripper. But, your question was about ratings after all, so I feel the chart is applicable.

Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Do you have any info on standard deviation/spread of the data? It would be interesting to know what the percentiles are.

E.g. for the 3, can we say there's a 95% chance a new gripper will be between X and Y. It's hard to know how rare the outliers are just looking at min/max.

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I'm new here so apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere.

From the little reading I've done, IM spring manufacturing/calibration has become more accurate over time and grippers vary far less than they used to. Reading RGC ratings here, I'm not sure whether poundage variance is simply because they're old models or if the upper/lower bounds still hold true.

Is there any data on gripper variance for those produced in 2014/2015? (or whenever they started producing the latest variants).

Yes, here: http://cannonpowerworks.com/pages/grip-strength-ratings-data

Those ratings are for all new grippers out of the package and only 2012 through present. IronMind has not changed their "recipe" in that timeframe as far as I know (same GR8 springs the whole time is what I mean). That should give you an indication of how the grippers vary as it relates to the Rating Service. Remember there are variables to the Rating Service as well and it only measures 1 thing about the gripper. But, your question was about ratings after all, so I feel the chart is applicable.

Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Do you have any info on standard deviation/spread of the data? It would be interesting to know what the percentiles are.

E.g. for the 3, can we say there's a 95% chance a new gripper will be between X and Y. It's hard to know how rare the outliers are just looking at min/max.

From the provided data you can figure it out. I highly highly doubt cannon documents every gripper calibrated. That would take too much time.

And as for the second part, can you tell me that there is a 95% chance the used car you bought will spin a rod? Or the new TV from best buy will have a cracked screen? No, this is a question that can't be answered. This is a wait and see kind of thing. You have to remember when dealing with steel it will all vary based on what else is being smelted and the end forging process. Hell maybe your gripper was made on a Friday and a worker skipped a step or the steel wasn't at temp and that's why a 3 could rate at 138lbs vs 150lbs

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New results:

- Konstantin IM#1 / 34.5kg / 76.16lb / rating = 0.71
- Konstantin IM#2 / 47.5kg / 104.86lb / rating = 1.80
- Konstantin RB210 / 57.5kg / 126.95lb / 2.42 / rating = 2.78
- Jevgeni XBAT4 / 41.5kg / 91.6lb / rating = 1.32
- Ossi Kettunen IM#3 / 68kg / 150.11lb / rating = 3.00
- Ossi Kettunen IM#3.5 / 76kg / 167.59lb / rating = 3.30
- Lucas Lindberg IM#2.5 / 55kg / 121.41lb / rating = 2.29
- Lucas Lindberg IM#2.5 / 56kg 7 123.62lb / rating = 2.34
- Lucas Lindberg BBSM / 58.5kg / 129.13lb / rating = 2.48
- Lucas Lindberg RB300N / 62.5kg / 136.71lb / rating = 2.67
- Lucas Lindberg IM#3 / 62.5kg / 136.71lb / rating = 2.67
- Lucas Lindberg IM#3 / 65.5kg / 144.6lb / rating = 2.87
- Lucas Lindberg IM#3 / 65.5kg / 144.6lb / rating = 2.87
- Lucas Lindberg IM#3 / 66kg / 145.7lb / rating = 2.89
- Lucas Lindberg IM#3.5 / 76kg / 167,78lb / rating = 3.30
- Lucas Lindberg IM3#3.5 / 78.5kg / 173.29 / rating = 3.39
- Lucas Lindberg IM#3.5 / 80kg / 176.6lb / rating = 3.45
Total 905 + 16 vulcan
Updated 21.09.2015
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I now have three grippers with an RGC rating

CoC #2 @107- Rated by Squeezus

CoC #2.5 @135- Rated by Cannon Powerworks

CoC 3 @150- Rated by Cannon Powerworks

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Updated of my rated ( CPW ) grippers:

27 COC Guide

37 COC Sport

43 GHP 1

50 Tetting Beginner

50 CPW Hybrid Beginner

53 COC Trainer

53 COC left turn Trainer

59 GHP 2

64 COC 0,5

68 COC 0,5

71 GHP 3

75 Tetting Advanced

75 CPW Hybrid Advanced

77 COC 1

77 COC left turn 1

78 Tetting Super Advanced

83 COC 1,5

84 CPW Hybrid Super Advanced

88 COC 1,5

91 GHP 4

96 GHP 4

98 COC 2

103 COC 2

103 COC left turn 2

103 CPW Hybrid Master

105 COC 2

108 Tetting Master

109 COC 2

112 COC 2

112 GHP 5

113 Tetting Super Master

114 GHP 5

114 COC 2

117 COC 2,5

120 Spectrum CPW 210

122 CPW Hybrid Super Master

122 Spectrum CPW 210

125 COC 2,5

127 COC 2,5

128 Tetting Super Master

130 COC 2,5

131 COC 2,5

132 COC 2,5

133 GHP 6

133 Tetting Super Master

136 GHP 6

139 COC 3

142 COC 3

143 COC 3

144 Tetting Grand Master

145 COC 3

145 CPW Hybrid Grand Master

146 Tetting Grand Master

147 COC 3

148 COC 3

149 COC 3

149 Tetting Grand Master

150 COC 3

151 COC 3

152 COC 3

151 COC left turn 3

152 GHP 7

154 COC 3

155 COC 3

156 COC 3

157 COC 3

158 COC 3

159 COC 3

160 COC 3

167 Tetting Elite

169 CPW Hybride Elite

176 GHP 8

177 COC 3,5

203 Tetting Super Elite

210 GHP 9

211 Tetting Grand Elite

218 COC 4

265 GHP 10

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Updated of my rated ( CPW ) grippers:

27 COC Guide

37 COC Sport

43 GHP 1

50 Tetting Beginner

50 CPW Hybrid Beginner

53 COC Trainer

53 COC left turn Trainer

59 GHP 2

64 COC 0,5

68 COC 0,5

71 GHP 3

75 Tetting Advanced

75 CPW Hybrid Advanced

77 COC 1

77 COC left turn 1

78 Tetting Super Advanced

83 COC 1,5

84 CPW Hybrid Super Advanced

88 COC 1,5

91 GHP 4

96 GHP 4

98 COC 2

103 COC 2

103 COC left turn 2

103 CPW Hybrid Master

105 COC 2

108 Tetting Master

109 COC 2

112 COC 2

112 GHP 5

113 Tetting Super Master

114 GHP 5

114 COC 2

117 COC 2,5

120 Spectrum CPW 210

122 CPW Hybrid Super Master

122 Spectrum CPW 210

125 COC 2,5

127 COC 2,5

128 Tetting Super Master

130 COC 2,5

131 COC 2,5

132 COC 2,5

133 GHP 6

133 Tetting Super Master

136 GHP 6

139 COC 3

142 COC 3

143 COC 3

144 Tetting Grand Master

145 COC 3

145 CPW Hybrid Grand Master

146 Tetting Grand Master

147 COC 3

148 COC 3

149 COC 3

149 Tetting Grand Master

150 COC 3

151 COC 3

152 COC 3

151 COC left turn 3

152 GHP 7

154 COC 3

155 COC 3

156 COC 3

157 COC 3

158 COC 3

159 COC 3

160 COC 3

167 Tetting Elite

169 CPW Hybride Elite

176 GHP 8

177 COC 3,5

203 Tetting Super Elite

210 GHP 9

211 Tetting Grand Elite

218 COC 4

265 GHP 10

Lol, if you want this list to be more perfect, swap "151 left turn 3" with "152 COC 3" :)

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Here's 3 pics of most of my rated grippers....the ones in the pics range from mid 100teens to mid 140's

Beautiful collection, love the look of those atom gripper.

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Thanks Ben...yeah the Atom grippers are very nice...the #137lb 4 band has a very narrow spread...and the smooth metal handles make them feel even tougher

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43 IM#S

61 IM#T
80 IM#1
87 IM#1.5
96 GHP4 / CPW 96
107 IM#2
110 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 10mm)
112 IM#2
113 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 8mm)
115 GHP5 / CPW 114
116 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 7mm)
118 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 6mm)
120 IM#2.5
120 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 5mm)
123 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 4mm)
126 GHP6 / CPW 125
127 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 3mm)
129 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 1,5mm)
152 GHP7
155 BBGM
186 BBE
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43 IM#S

61 IM#T
80 IM#1
87 IM#1.5
96 GHP4 / CPW 96
107 IM#2
110 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 10mm)
112 IM#2
113 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 8mm)
115 GHP5 / CPW 114
116 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 7mm)
118 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 6mm)
120 IM#2.5
120 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 5mm)
123 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 4mm)
126 GHP6 / CPW 125
127 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 3mm)
129 BBSM (ADJUSTABLE - 1,5mm)
132 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 10mm)
135 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 8mm)
138 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 7mm)
140 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 6mm)
143 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 5mm)
146 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 4mm)
150 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 3mm)
152 GHP7
154 BBGM (ADJUSTABLE - 1.5mm)
186 BBE
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