Ghp Level 7 & 8 Closers

[C8Myotome]

I've been repping out the GHP7 lately, keep getting 7 reps and 1 mm away from 8..with CPW 38 mm block. Just wanted to share.

 

[C8Myotome]

9xGHP7 with GHP block today 

 

[Cannon]

18 minutes ago, C8Myotome said:

9xGHP7 with GHP block today 

 

Very strong! 

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Question for Wade mainly unless anyone else knows... I'm not sure if it has been asked (I apologize for the redundancy if so), but if we would still like to certify on a 7, 8 or 9 but can't get our hands on a real GHP set block, could the Cannon set block be used as a substitute for an official attempt video? I measured it and it is dead on 1" x 1.5" x 3", the same virtually as the official GHP. Thanks!

[Cannon]

5 minutes ago, degradated said:

Question for Wade mainly unless anyone else knows... I'm not sure if it has been asked (I apologize for the redundancy if so), but if we would still like to certify on a 7, 8 or 9 but can't get our hands on a real GHP set block, could the Cannon set block be used as a substitute for an official attempt video? I measured it and it is dead on 1" x 1.5" x 3", the same virtually as the official GHP. Thanks!

I asked this question to Wade in 2022. He said, “At this time I would say no just to keep things standard. If there is a lot of people calling for this we could change the rules.”

So maybe he will weigh in because any future with the GHP cert will require an update anyway. I feel any properly measured block should be allowed. It’s been difficult to get an official block for years. 

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Just now, Cannon said:

I asked this question to Wade in 2022. He said, “At this time I would say no just to keep things standard. If there is a lot of people calling for this we could change the rules.”

So maybe he will weigh in because any future with the GHP cert will require an update anyway. I feel any properly measured block should be allowed. It’s been difficult to get an official block for years. 

Cool, thanks for your input Matt! I sure hope he changes his mind on the matter. Maybe some other gripsters could chime in and request that substitutions are allowed given the scarcity of the real one. The more the merrier, to prove to Mr. Gillingham that the demand is high. In addition, since the company has no plans to move forward, I think it would be fair to allow substitutions as long as the gripper itself is legit.

[C8Myotome]

I think the fact pasta man is still on the GHP list shows this challenge will never be active again

[C8Myotome]

On 3/21/2024 at 9:19 AM, degradated said:

Cool, thanks for your input Matt! I sure hope he changes his mind on the matter. Maybe some other gripsters could chime in and request that substitutions are allowed given the scarcity of the real one. The more the merrier, to prove to Mr. Gillingham that the demand is high. In addition, since the company has no plans to move forward, I think it would be fair to allow substitutions as long as the gripper itself is legit.

The only real reason to have an active cert process is for promotion of products to buy to use for it, & it's basically free advertising. With nothing for GHP to sell, any more cert judging/posting videos etc would all be volunteer work. They were already having trouble with keeping GHP profitable, so I don't see why they would want to do free work now, after the business closed due to not making enough money.

There were people waiting upto 6 months to hear back about their cert attempts previously, that I'm aware of. I don't think with the company closed, the old cert system is going to be any more active than it was while the company was actually running and selling things.

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1 minute ago, C8Myotome said:

The only real reason to have an active cert process is for promotion of products to buy to use for it, & it's basically free advertising. With nothing for GHP to sell, any more cert judging/posting videos etc would all be volunteer work. They were already having trouble with keeping GHP profitable, so I don't see why they would want to do free work now, after the business closed due to not making enough money.

There were people waiting upto 6 months to hear back about their cert attempts previously, that I'm aware of. I don't think with the company closed, the old cert system is going to be any more active than it was while the company was actually running and selling things.

Dang, you make a good point. It's all up to Wade, I suppose, if certs will continue to take place and be recognized.

[C8Myotome]

21 minutes ago, degradated said:

Dang, you make a good point. It's all up to Wade, I suppose, if certs will continue to take place and be recognized.

I'd be bummed about missing out too, it was a great entry level cert with an easy format where you got unlimited attempts, however it could have benefited from more strict rules as shown via pasta man conning it

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4 minutes ago, C8Myotome said:

I'd be bummed about missing out too, it was a great entry level cert with an easy format where you got unlimited attempts, however it could have benefited from more strict rules as shown via pasta man conning it

Totally bummed... Has it been established exactly how Tiz altered the GHP cert submission vids?

[C8Myotome]

20 minutes ago, degradated said:

Totally bummed... Has it been established exactly how Tiz altered the GHP cert submission vids?

Yes, he took Tough Ape chinese springs that look bright silver in color, and put those into ghp/coc handles.

Because these are narrow 50 lb springs, to get the GHP spread measurement, he could have easily just bent the spring outwards just enough to be in the same specificiation range as he would have seen in other approved cert videos. He strategically only measured the spread before the close, and not after, which would have revealed how narrow the Tough Ape spring really was after it relapsed a bit from being bent outward I would figure. As far as spring coil diameter measurement, I'm not sure how thick those springs are but it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world to figure out how to fudge either, or maybe they're similarly thick.

He also usually used 2 hands to open the gripper and then get it away/hidden from camera as soon as possible to probably hide how much narrower the spring was after being closed (because he probably bent all these outward too to try to make them look like wide ghp/coc).

Faking the GHP8, GHP9 and probably also GHP7 certs was basically just practice for faking the coc 3.5 cert, he did the same spring swap and duped people multiple times which probably gave him the confidence to fake a 3.5 cert as well, the only things he did additionally were to repackage the fake gripper into CoC packaging which dubya showed is not impossible to make look convincing, then what he got caught with was the amazon barcode UPC sticker on the pack of the package, which Ironmind used as evidence to show it was not the same gripper they sent him, and also the packing tape was crinkled showing the package had been opened and resealed with the same tape.

I know for a fact it was tough ape springs as there is an instagram account (still active) which he and his friend were running, I know this for 100% fact because someone sent me voice clips coming from this account that were one million percent pasta man himself, before anyone knew who he was he was reaching out to elite gripsters to ask for advice about what kind of adjustable gripper they would want to buy as he claimed to have springs and handles and was planning to make grippers to sell, i believe he made an rgc machine too, but anyways this same instagram account has (and still has) pictures of coc grippers and tough ape grippers shown side by side in the same picture, the same account pasta man was sending voice messages from without revealing his name specifically on it. When he later started posting training videos, it was from a different account that was associated with his name. So there is cold hard evidence before he even tried to make a name for himself in training, he was taking apart, building grippers and modifying them which he purposely never mentioned anything of either publicly, or for example with me either, during the probably hundreds of DMs he sent me during the time I talked to him and then started giving him the slow fade once he started trying to fake being superhuman with his godly vegetarian strength from his magical programming

I assume everything he has done is fake. I'd guess the springs he used for 3.5 and GHP9 type certs were probably like 200, 250 or 300 lb spring difficulty level which is not exactly godly to be able to close or even ccs, but with 3.5 or ghp8/ghp9 handles glued onto them he tricked people into thinking it was something impressive.

Similarly in his fake coc 3.5 cert video he likely bent the spring to have a wider spread to fit in the coc packaging, or to make it look like a 3.5, then after his repeated closes you can tell the spring got significantly narrower after each close, i forget the figure but it was probably at least 1 cm+ narrower, to the point where the spring was barely opening up wide enough to be able to fit the credit card though it; you could see how relaxed his hands were as well.

If he did 1 3.5 CCS and took the fake cert he probably would have had more trouble getting caught, but he got REALLY as greedy as possible and did a triple, then a double, to the point where the card could barely fit through the handles which is pretty typical for trying to do ccs with a 50 lb gripper

And then there's all the fake blob and loading pin stuff, but I really only paid attention to the gripper stuff.

100% fake

Edited March 29 by C8Myotome

[degradated]

Very thorough explanation... Thanks!

It's sad some of the great lengths some demented people will go to "prove themselves" in the world. I'm glad his name was removed from the IM 3.5 list at least.

[steeve tremblay]

On 29/03/2024 at 08:11, C8Myotome said:

Oui, il a pris des ressorts chinois Tough Ape qui semblent de couleur argentée brillante et les a mis dans des poignées ghp/coc.

Comme il s'agit de ressorts étroits de 50 lb, pour obtenir la mesure de propagation GHP, il aurait facilement pu simplement plier le ressort vers l'extérieur, juste assez pour être dans la même plage de spécifications que celle qu'il aurait vue dans d'autres vidéos de certification approuvées. Il a stratégiquement mesuré l'écart uniquement avant la clôture, et non après, ce qui aurait révélé à quel point le ressort du Tough Ape était réellement étroit après qu'il ait rechuté un peu après avoir été plié vers l'extérieur, je suppose. En ce qui concerne la mesure du diamètre des spires du ressort, je ne suis pas sûr de l'épaisseur de ces ressorts, mais ce ne serait pas la chose la plus folle au monde de comprendre comment truquer non plus, ou peut-être qu'ils ont la même épaisseur.

Il utilisait aussi généralement ses 2 mains pour ouvrir la pince, puis l'éloignait/cachait de la caméra dès que possible pour probablement cacher à quel point le ressort était plus étroit après avoir été fermé (car il a probablement également plié tous ces éléments vers l'extérieur pour essayer de les faire paraître comme large ghp/coc).

Falsifier les certificats GHP8, GHP9 et probablement aussi GHP7 n'était en fait qu'une simple pratique pour simuler le certificat coc 3.5, il a fait le même échange de printemps et a trompé les gens à plusieurs reprises, ce qui lui a probablement donné la confiance nécessaire pour simuler également un certificat 3.5, les seules choses qu'il a a en outre dû reconditionner la fausse pince dans un emballage CoC, ce que Dubya a montré n'est pas impossible à rendre convaincant, alors ce avec quoi il s'est fait prendre était l'autocollant UPC du code-barres Amazon sur l'emballage de l'emballage, qu'Ironmind a utilisé comme preuve pour montrer qu'il s'agissait d'un emballage CoC. pas la même pince qu'ils lui ont envoyée, et aussi le ruban d'emballage était froissé, montrant que le colis avait été ouvert et refermé avec le même ruban.

Je sais pertinemment que c'était difficile pour Ape Springs car il y a un compte Instagram (toujours actif) que lui et son ami géraient, je le sais à 100% parce que quelqu'un m'a envoyé des clips vocaux provenant de ce compte qui représentaient un million pour cent. l'homme de pâtes lui-même, avant que quiconque sache qui il était, il a contacté des gripsters d'élite pour leur demander conseil sur le type de pince réglable qu'ils voudraient acheter, car il prétendait avoir des ressorts et des poignées et prévoyait de fabriquer des pinces à vendre, je Je crois qu'il a aussi fabriqué une machine RGC, mais de toute façon, ce même compte Instagram a (et a toujours) des photos de pinces à coc et de pinces à singe résistantes montrées côte à côte sur la même image, le même compte à partir duquel Pasta Man envoyait des messages vocaux sans révéler son nom spécifiquement dessus. Lorsqu'il a ensuite commencé à publier des vidéos de formation, c'était à partir d'un autre compte associé à son nom. Il existe donc des preuves tangibles, avant même qu'il n'essaye de se faire un nom à l'entraînement, qu'il démontait, construisait et modifiait des pinces dont il n'a volontairement jamais rien mentionné, ni publiquement, ni par exemple avec moi non plus, pendant probablement des centaines d'années. de DM qu'il m'a envoyé pendant que je lui parlais, puis a commencé à lui donner un fondu lent une fois qu'il a commencé à essayer de faire semblant d'être surhumain avec sa force végétarienne divine issue de sa programmation magique

Je suppose que tout ce qu'il a fait est faux. Je suppose que les ressorts qu'il a utilisés pour les certificats de type 3,5 et GHP9 étaient probablement d'un niveau de difficulté de ressort de 200, 250 ou 300 lb, ce qui n'est pas vraiment divin de pouvoir fermer ou même ccs, mais avec des poignées 3,5 ou ghp8/ghp9 collées dessus. il a trompé les gens en leur faisant croire que c'était quelque chose d'impressionnant.

De même, dans sa fausse vidéo de certificat coc 3.5, il a probablement plié le ressort pour avoir un écart plus large pour tenir dans l'emballage du coc, ou pour le faire ressembler à un 3.5, puis après ses fermetures répétées, vous pouvez dire que le ressort est devenu considérablement plus étroit après chaque fermeture. , j'ai oublié le chiffre mais il était probablement au moins 1 cm+ plus étroit, au point que le ressort s'ouvrait à peine assez large pour pouvoir y insérer la carte de crédit ; on pouvait également voir à quel point ses mains étaient détendues.

S'il avait fait 1 3,5 CCS et pris le faux certificat, il aurait probablement eu plus de mal à se faire prendre, mais il est devenu VRAIMENT aussi gourmand que possible et a fait un triple, puis un double, au point que la carte pouvait à peine passer à travers les poignées. ce qui est assez typique pour essayer de faire des ccs avec une pince de 50 lb

Et puis il y a tous les faux trucs de blob et de goupilles de chargement, mais je n'ai vraiment prêté attention qu'aux trucs de pince.

100% faux

you would have made a good investigator. At least we know how it all happened. his vanity has ruined him