Alawadhi Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 In the grip board don't ever see the numbers on the grippers. people only use CoC grippers as a reference from other grippers. Typo. It's "grip world" not "grip board". Anyway what I mean is hg300 doesn't mean it's harder the CoC#3 because #3 is only 285 pounds. Some HG300 can be like CoC#2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdudley Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Can anyone tell me where in the rankings my rb 365 would fit? i think its beyond a #4 but i have not managed to see it mentioned anywhere on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 rb 365 its betwen hg 500 and bb pro if u are a friend of Sam Salomi(coc#3) or S.Gardnerer(Mobsterone) they may help u to give u one idea if its harder than the average #4. i dont think anyone have one Redneck calibrator in England ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoC#3 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Hugo, my RB365 is a closeable gripper but it is harder than any #4 i have tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 RB's vary more and season more than BB's or CoC's according to calibrations. Judging by my extended handle RB 365 getting awfully easy after good use, I think the same could very well happen to regular RB 365. My ext. handle RB 365 is nowadays only 3.73 on the CoC-scale. Leads me to think that if I had a similar regular 365, I could MMS it at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Sam: thanks for the info:) "Leads me to think that if I had a similar regular 365, I could MMS it at the moment. " Temmu is saying your gripper should be around 3.86(coc scale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoC#3 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 RB's vary more and season more than BB's or CoC's according to calibrations. Judging by my extended handle RB 365 getting awfully easy after good use, I think the same could very well happen to regular RB 365. My ext. handle RB 365 is nowadays only 3.73 on the CoC-scale. Leads me to think that if I had a similar regular 365, I could MMS it at the moment. Can i send you mine? You can 1. calibrate it and 2. try and close it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKtheGreek Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 i bought an elite recently and its equal to my 2007 CoC Gr 8 #3. This is jsut by my feel not caled, the spring on the elite is much larger but the feel to be about the same difficulty. Anyone else come across this? I bought the elite to do negs so I could get the #3. kinda frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 i bought an elite recently and its equal to my 2007 CoC Gr 8 #3. This is jsut by my feel not caled, the spring on the elite is much larger but the feel to be about the same difficulty. Anyone else come across this? I bought the elite to do negs so I could get the #3. kinda frustratingThat happens. It could be that your #3 is hard, about a 3.3 level and got yourself an Elite about the same. In my opinion it is more likely to be this way around than having a really easy Elite these days. But who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu I Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 i bought an elite recently and its equal to my 2007 CoC Gr 8 #3. This is jsut by my feel not caled, the spring on the elite is much larger but the feel to be about the same difficulty. Anyone else come across this? I bought the elite to do negs so I could get the #3. kinda frustratingThat happens. It could be that your #3 is hard, about a 3.3 level and got yourself an Elite about the same. In my opinion it is more likely to be this way around than having a really easy Elite these days. But who knows. I'd like to add that it would be good to get them calibrated, then decide what gripper to get for the negs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdudley Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 rb 365 its betwen hg 500 and bb pro if u are a friend of Sam Salomi(coc#3) or S.Gardnerer(Mobsterone) they may help u to give u one idea if its harder than the average #4. i dont think anyone have one Redneck calibrator in England ... thanks Hugo,have seen your vids on utube.My utube user name id cadaverhusk.All the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 IM Guide 60 lbsRB70 IM Sport 80 lbs HG100 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs HG150 .225 COC T 100 lbs RB130N RB100 RB160N RB130 RB180N .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs .235 COC #1 140 lbs HG200 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs PDA243 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs GM1 cert gripper RB210N HG250 RB160 .260 BB Master 195 lbs .260 COC #2 195 lbs RB180 RB240N PDA262 RB260N .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs HG300 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs GM2 cert Gripper RB210 HG400 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs .281 COC #3 280 lbs .277 RB240 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs GM3 cert gripper RB300N HG350 .277 RB260 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs .295 BB Elite 320 lbs .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs RB330N .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs .295 RB300 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs RB330 .312 COC #4 365 lbs .353 HG500 RB365 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs .345 BB World Class 470 lbs .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs .362 BB Super Galaxy .375 BB Grand Galaxy RBWT This may need some adjusting. Maybe Greg Amidon could supply some input, as he is calibrating some grippers, by measuring the poundages at the end of the handles. This is an awesome list. It even has the RB's in there. Is this the latest? Are there any updated versions of this, as this is 2 1/2 years old. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 IM Guide 60 lbsRB70 IM Sport 80 lbs HG100 .225 BB Beginner 100 lbs HG150 .225 COC T 100 lbs RB130N RB100 RB160N RB130 RB180N .235 BB Advanced 140 lbs .235 COC #1 140 lbs HG200 .241 COC 2004 #1 153 lbs PDA243 .250 COC 2006 #1.5 168 lbs .250 BB Super Advanced 173 lbs GM1 cert gripper RB210N HG250 RB160 .260 BB Master 195 lbs .260 COC #2 195 lbs RB180 RB240N PDA262 RB260N .273 COC 2006 #2.5 238 lbs HG300 .275 BB Super Master 255 lbs GM2 cert Gripper RB210 HG400 .281 BB Grand Master 280 lbs .281 COC #3 280 lbs .277 RB240 .283 COC 2005 #3 290 lbs GM3 cert gripper RB300N HG350 .277 RB260 .295 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG1 * 306 lbs .295 spring, 3/16" mount, 2.75 width MMG2 * 315 lbs .295 BB Elite 320 lbs .294 COC 2006 #3.5 323 lbs RB330N .306 spring, 1/4" mount, 2.75 width MMG3 * 335 lbs .295 RB300 .306 spring, 3/16” mount, 2.75 width MMG4 * 345 lbs .306 BB Super Elite 345 lbs .312 BB Grand Elite 365 lbs RB330 .312 COC #4 365 lbs .353 HG500 RB365 .331 BB Pro 430 lbs .345 BB World Class 470 lbs .353? BB Galaxy 565 lbs .362 BB Super Galaxy .375 BB Grand Galaxy RBWT This may need some adjusting. Maybe Greg Amidon could supply some input, as he is calibrating some grippers, by measuring the poundages at the end of the handles. This is an awesome list. It even has the RB's in there. Is this the latest? Are there any updated versions of this, as this is 2 1/2 years old. Thanks I noticed that HG400 has less strength than the 350. Mistake on list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetAGrip87 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I noticed that HG400 has less strength than the 350. Mistake on list? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencrush Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I noticed that HG400 has less strength than the 350. Mistake on list? Nope. The HG400s really lose their spread more than the HG350s and I'm not sure why. All of the HG350s I've closed are harder than the HG400s, some by a huge margin...I'd guesstimate 20-30lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 i brought one rb 240 from germain 3 months ago , its much easier than the average #3. Same with Filip ... his rb 240 its betwen #2.5 and #3. are all the news rb 240 much easier than #3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiMcMullen Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 i brought one rb 240 from germain 3 months ago , its much easier than the average #3.Same with Filip ... his rb 240 its betwen #2.5 and #3. are all the news rb 240 much easier than #3? My RB240 is easier than many of the #3's I've tried. I got my 240 a few months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokhugo Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 (edited) same with Zach ... should we place the rb 240 lower than the #3? (update the list?) Edited July 18, 2008 by ewokhugo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autolupus Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Mine is sub #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lipinski Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Calibration has mostly rendered this list obselete. Changing styles and variation make the grippers that are close together hard to predict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Calibration has mostly rendered this list obsolete. It doesn't change wire sizes and in spite of posts only a few have actually calibrated. I ain't too bother finding out precisely how many pounds each of my grippers are for the sake of it. If it happens, it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdigriz Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Calibration has mostly rendered this list obsolete. It doesn't change wire sizes and in spite of posts only a few have actually calibrated. I ain't too bother finding out precisely how many pounds each of my grippers are for the sake of it. If it happens, it happens. Each to their own.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Of course. Remind me how many of those who've gone to the trouble are actually Captain's of Crush? I know a few are but how many have found knowing the wire size, never mind the poundage rating have gotten stronger because of it? For some finding out the poundage rating merely identified what they already knew. That 1) some of their grippers were harder than others. Squeezing them did that. 2) that some of their grip buddies hard both harder and easier grippers and 3) that some of their grip buddies were either stronger or weaker than they were. We already knew there were differences between one batch and the next from the same company never mind other brands. Because there are no averages (as per a suggestion of mind) the wire size list still applies. When a batch of say HG300's, CoC 3's and so on have been averaged you'll have a true list of steps in strength. Here's the thing - I've said it before and all the frills and fluff doesn't change it one bit - those that were strong before are still strong and those that were weak before are still so. Knowing precisely how much of either has neither changed that nor helped it. If I rate myself as half decent on grippers (and I do) why don't I care enough to worry about such things other than in competitions? It'll be because I train hard and I can tell by squeezing a gripper how hard it feels. I've just enough to do well on (I think, in total, 24 of which about 12 get used). Others with over 100 and calibrated don't even come close. Bob suggests the list might well be obsolete but is, I think, over estimating how many have gone to the trouble of setting up said calibration devices. Those with disposable income to waste have sent their grippers to others for testing (I KNOW I don't have that kinda of money) still aren't as many as perhaps it is thought. So we're at this place. Knowing the rating doesn't make you stronger and not as many as needs to be meaningful have actually rated the grippers just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 The wire sizes are a good general guideline before you buy the gripper, assuming you're buying a non-calibrated gripper. The RGC poundages are great for when the gripper arrives and you can actually find out what you have. Neither ranking system makes you stronger, that takes a little thing called training. However, the RGC will give you a more precise measure of how strong you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobsterone Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Is anyone selling new grippers which have been calibrated?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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